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this is why I refuse to continue this debate darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 20/11/2012 05:31:11 PM
No one sees it this way? You don't. Sidious doesn't. Probably Shannow won't. If I'm supposed to simply accept as fact anything you three see as fact, I'd be making millions of mistakes.

You clearly can't argue on the facts of the case, and continue to ignore the very quote your provided.Continue on with your head in the sand.


It will continue to go in circles ... believe as you will on this, but just because you want to ignore quotes and facts in the books to fit your theories doesn't make them true.

Amy's herself tells us Egwene was going to break through the shield held on her. Amys is at least as strong as Katerine which makes her stronger than Barasine and probably at least equal to Silviana. And Egwene is most likely considerably stronger in KoD than she was in TFoH and LoC. The obvious answer is forkroot.
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How many standard deviations is Lanfear Lanfear - 15/11/2012 06:04:39 PM 2575 Views
Well... vandevere - 15/11/2012 07:02:45 PM 1579 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 15/11/2012 07:25:34 PM 1671 Views
see we CAN agree on stuff darius_sedai - 15/11/2012 07:56:12 PM 1518 Views
Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:37:22 PM 1377 Views
We've always been close with everything except the scale darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 10:29:07 PM 1404 Views
Re: DomA - 18/11/2012 11:07:17 PM 1589 Views
Re: Sidious - 19/11/2012 05:16:00 AM 1421 Views
Re: DomA - 19/11/2012 03:13:01 PM 1417 Views
They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% Shannow - 19/11/2012 03:19:19 PM 1470 Views
Re: They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% DomA - 19/11/2012 04:01:43 PM 1624 Views
Re: They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:04:04 PM 1392 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:08:40 AM 1445 Views
Perhaps, but Egwene is also being a bit dramatic in the scene as she managed darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:28:57 AM 1440 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:13:13 PM 1509 Views
I believe she is being over dramatic darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:26:24 PM 1359 Views
Keep believing that... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:30:14 PM 1506 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:49:10 PM 1483 Views
Tired and forkroot are the same now? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:55:22 PM 1381 Views
No it's the literary device darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:04:28 PM 1490 Views
This is getting ridiculous... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:43:13 PM 1351 Views
You are missing my point completely darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:50:46 PM 1280 Views
Impossible. Daigian is exactly 0.32SD below the mean Shannow - 19/11/2012 11:06:04 AM 1425 Views
You keep saying that, but it is either a linear or a non-linear distribution darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:09:32 PM 1505 Views
That's the whole point. Thanks for finally seeing it. Shannow - 19/11/2012 09:43:27 PM 1458 Views
keep believing that ... but you making up numbers isn't really relevant *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:29:44 AM 877 Views
Please show me a number that is made up. The 0.32SD for Daigian is a rule of statistics. Shannow - 20/11/2012 07:15:48 AM 1364 Views
Go read Fionwe's post about it *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:33:19 PM 886 Views
Is that before or after she started juicing? Praziquantel - 15/11/2012 11:04:14 PM 1419 Views
Wouldn't it be 1 in 105 million? Lanfear - 21/11/2012 04:56:19 PM 1302 Views
Are you sure that it is a normal distribution? Dreadlord - 16/11/2012 04:21:02 PM 1468 Views
Ugh. I hate power level discussions. For real world applications, it should be kind of meaningless beetnemesis - 16/11/2012 10:28:49 PM 1355 Views
I don't really agree Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:40:53 PM 1344 Views
Perhaps, but we've seen that a MUCH weaker Channeler can win in a duel darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:13:48 PM 1370 Views
Re: Perhaps, but we've seen that a MUCH weaker Channeler can win in a duel Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:10:01 AM 1367 Views
probably ... Lanfear/Cyndane is clearly remarkably skilled darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:35:09 PM 1403 Views
Since I've proven that it's not a normal distribution in units of absolute strength, SDs don't apply Shannow - 17/11/2012 07:48:21 PM 1436 Views
You have proven nothing, except that you have an opinion *NM* darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 02:21:35 AM 860 Views
You simply don't get it. It is mathematically a fact. There is no opinion involved. Shannow - 18/11/2012 02:19:40 PM 1215 Views
Only because you've assigned numeric values. That you created. darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 02:40:51 PM 1393 Views
It doesn't matter what figure you use... Shannow - 18/11/2012 03:01:56 PM 1296 Views
What if Daigian is one third Lanfear's strength? fionwe1987 - 18/11/2012 04:37:58 PM 1434 Views
We have a limit for Daigian's strength, as you well know. Shannow - 18/11/2012 05:41:49 PM 1352 Views
Are you kidding me? fionwe1987 - 18/11/2012 09:07:38 PM 1509 Views
Sure you can darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 10:09:31 PM 1419 Views
Re: Sure you can DomA - 18/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1395 Views
You're right, though its 37.5% fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 12:21:29 AM 1369 Views
Oops, typo! darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 02:54:25 AM 1423 Views
Again, not possible, due to Daigian being just 0.3SD below the Mean Shannow - 19/11/2012 08:37:01 AM 1371 Views
Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 04:05:12 PM 1291 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... Sidious - 19/11/2012 05:55:02 PM 1233 Views
Egwene is about as strong as Melaine and Amys combined darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:19:50 PM 1356 Views
Re: Egwene is about as strong as Melaine and Amys combined fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:11:26 AM 1436 Views
Forkroot in every case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:32:26 AM 1352 Views
No! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:15:16 PM 1368 Views
I'm not going to go re-read the books to you on this darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:39:46 PM 1345 Views
You need to read it for yourself, since you're completely confused. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:54:26 PM 1355 Views
Not going to argue this with you. darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:09:44 PM 1262 Views
Your own example disproved your point... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:39:25 PM 1404 Views
let's see, she's both asleep and would need hours to regain her strength darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:43:17 PM 1293 Views
Enough! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:04:06 PM 1369 Views
LOL ... whatever. You go on believing that ... no one else sees it this way. *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:20:52 PM 849 Views
What a brilliant argument! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:25:18 PM 1370 Views
this is why I refuse to continue this debate darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:31:11 PM 1323 Views
Re: Your own example disproved your point... Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:10:15 PM 1378 Views
Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:26:31 PM 1378 Views
Re: Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:31:50 PM 1367 Views
Re: Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:42:53 PM 1335 Views
Excuse me? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:28:48 PM 1420 Views
see we can agree on the relative strength of Egwene v. Forsaken darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:35:07 PM 1376 Views
??? Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:37:01 PM 1456 Views
2 middling sisters darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:45:27 PM 1391 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:26:47 AM 1301 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... Sidious - 20/11/2012 09:03:40 AM 1369 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:59:08 PM 1365 Views
None of this is backed by any evidence... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:24:12 PM 1284 Views
who said Cadsuane was 1.5x Moiraine or more? darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:03:13 PM 1301 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:41:35 PM 1315 Views
wrong darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:48:50 PM 1279 Views
My bad. Mized up 1/3 and 2/3. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:05:05 PM 1361 Views
gotcha *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:46:21 PM 822 Views
Better evidence? LOL! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:18:55 PM 1351 Views
Huh? How did you come to that conclusion? darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:40:56 PM 1350 Views
Exactly *NM* Sidious - 20/11/2012 04:55:28 PM 1330 Views
BEcause Cadsuane is close on the heels of Egwene? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:10:50 PM 1241 Views
I'm not arguing that. I agree that Cadsuane is pretty close to Egwene darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:50:34 PM 1406 Views
Re: Better evidence? LOL! Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:00:47 PM 1264 Views
Interesting, but let's go with your figures... Shannow - 19/11/2012 06:54:54 AM 1435 Views
Indeed Sidious - 19/11/2012 08:16:44 AM 1448 Views
Rand is sort of a special case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:25:02 AM 1332 Views
Regarding Mesaana... Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:42:56 AM 1341 Views
You continue to mix two things darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:24:44 PM 1254 Views
No Sidious - 20/11/2012 04:54:19 PM 1502 Views
You are mistaken darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:04:40 PM 1305 Views
Yes she did Darius! Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:27:36 PM 1279 Views
Yet there is no duel darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 06:01:17 PM 1272 Views
Explain the .3xSD thing to me... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 04:58:57 PM 1528 Views
Probably, but the AS have no idea what 37.5% means darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 02:59:26 AM 1301 Views
It's irrelevant DomA - 19/11/2012 03:46:42 AM 1383 Views
Agreed. Daigian is the marker of the absolute bottom of Aes Sedai strength. Shannow - 19/11/2012 06:55:41 AM 1344 Views
Daigian Sidious - 19/11/2012 08:12:19 AM 1340 Views
It is a direct marker due to RJ's quote Shannow - 19/11/2012 08:50:26 AM 1397 Views
You missed my point Sidious - 19/11/2012 09:08:42 AM 1301 Views
Re: You missed my point DomA - 19/11/2012 02:18:33 PM 1432 Views
Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:41:11 AM 1318 Views
Re: Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS Sidious - 20/11/2012 09:07:49 AM 1289 Views
Which would make an average AS around a 30 darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:58:56 PM 1197 Views
Re: Sure you can Tor - 19/11/2012 09:22:09 AM 1456 Views
Care to explain this... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 05:06:28 PM 1235 Views
Indeed Tor - 20/11/2012 07:16:37 AM 1445 Views
Explained far better than I ever could. Bravo. Shannow - 20/11/2012 07:30:29 AM 1321 Views
Well duh. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:57:24 PM 1421 Views
Incorrect. Shannow - 20/11/2012 04:28:07 PM 1406 Views
No fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:44:16 PM 1383 Views
Re: No Tor - 20/11/2012 04:48:36 PM 1369 Views
That depends... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:18:46 PM 1224 Views
Re: That depends... Tor - 20/11/2012 05:31:03 PM 1825 Views
You're integrating without lower limits... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:55:06 PM 1358 Views
Re: You're integrating without lower limits... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:37:57 PM 1402 Views
It matters. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:22:40 PM 1409 Views
We are not talking about a normal distribution in any case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:44:24 AM 1193 Views
Re: We are not talking about a normal distribution in any case Tor - 20/11/2012 07:02:47 AM 1398 Views
You must tell me of this special math... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:10:09 PM 1284 Views
Re: You must tell me of this special math... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:29:40 PM 1342 Views
Morghase is a placeholder... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:45:42 PM 1434 Views
Re: Morghase is a placeholder... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:49:54 PM 1701 Views
Why? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:23:29 PM 1360 Views
Re: Why? Tor - 20/11/2012 05:36:45 PM 1674 Views
Well... Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:43:59 PM 1407 Views
Re: Well... DomA - 19/11/2012 03:40:44 PM 1376 Views
Wow. Shannow - 19/11/2012 03:53:47 PM 1409 Views
Re: Wow. DomA - 19/11/2012 04:26:09 PM 1435 Views
Some points Sidious - 19/11/2012 06:03:00 PM 1460 Views
Well then you're both wrong I'm afraid Sidious - 19/11/2012 06:09:36 PM 1351 Views
Re: Well then you're both wrong I'm afraid DomA - 19/11/2012 07:42:58 PM 1240 Views
this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:51:20 AM 1411 Views
Agreed Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:13:37 AM 1469 Views
probably darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 06:18:45 PM 1303 Views
Re: this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power DomA - 20/11/2012 02:45:18 PM 1322 Views
I think RJ went out of his way to keep strength a bit of a mystery darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 08:42:44 PM 1363 Views
Indeed... DomA - 21/11/2012 05:44:18 PM 1268 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 01:43:02 AM 1547 Views
Math gurus...Is it possible to find the missing variable... Lanfear - 21/11/2012 05:12:24 PM 1346 Views
the problem is that the Mean is not going to tell us much really darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 02:55:03 AM 1421 Views
Re: the problem is that the Mean is not going to tell us much really Lanfear - 22/11/2012 03:15:33 AM 1705 Views
I do not think you can calculate the Mean without knowing the Units of Power darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 03:53:59 AM 1480 Views
Re: Math gurus...Is it possible to find the missing variable... Tor - 23/11/2012 02:59:12 PM 1816 Views
Disregard this post *NM* Tor - 23/11/2012 03:02:24 PM 1093 Views
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