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this is why I refuse to continue this debate darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 20/11/2012 05:31:11 PM
No one sees it this way? You don't. Sidious doesn't. Probably Shannow won't. If I'm supposed to simply accept as fact anything you three see as fact, I'd be making millions of mistakes.

You clearly can't argue on the facts of the case, and continue to ignore the very quote your provided.Continue on with your head in the sand.


It will continue to go in circles ... believe as you will on this, but just because you want to ignore quotes and facts in the books to fit your theories doesn't make them true.

Amy's herself tells us Egwene was going to break through the shield held on her. Amys is at least as strong as Katerine which makes her stronger than Barasine and probably at least equal to Silviana. And Egwene is most likely considerably stronger in KoD than she was in TFoH and LoC. The obvious answer is forkroot.
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How many standard deviations is Lanfear Lanfear - 15/11/2012 06:04:39 PM 2471 Views
Well... vandevere - 15/11/2012 07:02:45 PM 1472 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 15/11/2012 07:25:34 PM 1570 Views
see we CAN agree on stuff darius_sedai - 15/11/2012 07:56:12 PM 1418 Views
Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:37:22 PM 1270 Views
We've always been close with everything except the scale darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 10:29:07 PM 1301 Views
Re: DomA - 18/11/2012 11:07:17 PM 1486 Views
Re: Sidious - 19/11/2012 05:16:00 AM 1329 Views
Re: DomA - 19/11/2012 03:13:01 PM 1324 Views
They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% Shannow - 19/11/2012 03:19:19 PM 1352 Views
Re: They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% DomA - 19/11/2012 04:01:43 PM 1542 Views
Re: They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:04:04 PM 1311 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:08:40 AM 1357 Views
Perhaps, but Egwene is also being a bit dramatic in the scene as she managed darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:28:57 AM 1339 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:13:13 PM 1410 Views
I believe she is being over dramatic darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:26:24 PM 1249 Views
Keep believing that... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:30:14 PM 1407 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:49:10 PM 1382 Views
Tired and forkroot are the same now? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:55:22 PM 1272 Views
No it's the literary device darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:04:28 PM 1385 Views
This is getting ridiculous... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:43:13 PM 1256 Views
You are missing my point completely darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:50:46 PM 1189 Views
Impossible. Daigian is exactly 0.32SD below the mean Shannow - 19/11/2012 11:06:04 AM 1317 Views
You keep saying that, but it is either a linear or a non-linear distribution darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:09:32 PM 1393 Views
That's the whole point. Thanks for finally seeing it. Shannow - 19/11/2012 09:43:27 PM 1360 Views
keep believing that ... but you making up numbers isn't really relevant *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:29:44 AM 831 Views
Please show me a number that is made up. The 0.32SD for Daigian is a rule of statistics. Shannow - 20/11/2012 07:15:48 AM 1265 Views
Go read Fionwe's post about it *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:33:19 PM 849 Views
Is that before or after she started juicing? Praziquantel - 15/11/2012 11:04:14 PM 1322 Views
Wouldn't it be 1 in 105 million? Lanfear - 21/11/2012 04:56:19 PM 1178 Views
Are you sure that it is a normal distribution? Dreadlord - 16/11/2012 04:21:02 PM 1379 Views
Ugh. I hate power level discussions. For real world applications, it should be kind of meaningless beetnemesis - 16/11/2012 10:28:49 PM 1263 Views
I don't really agree Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:40:53 PM 1241 Views
Perhaps, but we've seen that a MUCH weaker Channeler can win in a duel darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:13:48 PM 1271 Views
Re: Perhaps, but we've seen that a MUCH weaker Channeler can win in a duel Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:10:01 AM 1255 Views
probably ... Lanfear/Cyndane is clearly remarkably skilled darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:35:09 PM 1296 Views
Since I've proven that it's not a normal distribution in units of absolute strength, SDs don't apply Shannow - 17/11/2012 07:48:21 PM 1335 Views
You have proven nothing, except that you have an opinion *NM* darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 02:21:35 AM 812 Views
You simply don't get it. It is mathematically a fact. There is no opinion involved. Shannow - 18/11/2012 02:19:40 PM 1129 Views
Only because you've assigned numeric values. That you created. darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 02:40:51 PM 1306 Views
It doesn't matter what figure you use... Shannow - 18/11/2012 03:01:56 PM 1187 Views
What if Daigian is one third Lanfear's strength? fionwe1987 - 18/11/2012 04:37:58 PM 1326 Views
We have a limit for Daigian's strength, as you well know. Shannow - 18/11/2012 05:41:49 PM 1260 Views
Are you kidding me? fionwe1987 - 18/11/2012 09:07:38 PM 1408 Views
Sure you can darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 10:09:31 PM 1311 Views
Re: Sure you can DomA - 18/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1315 Views
You're right, though its 37.5% fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 12:21:29 AM 1272 Views
Oops, typo! darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 02:54:25 AM 1313 Views
Again, not possible, due to Daigian being just 0.3SD below the Mean Shannow - 19/11/2012 08:37:01 AM 1269 Views
Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 04:05:12 PM 1177 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... Sidious - 19/11/2012 05:55:02 PM 1122 Views
Egwene is about as strong as Melaine and Amys combined darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:19:50 PM 1249 Views
Re: Egwene is about as strong as Melaine and Amys combined fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:11:26 AM 1319 Views
Forkroot in every case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:32:26 AM 1259 Views
No! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:15:16 PM 1246 Views
I'm not going to go re-read the books to you on this darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:39:46 PM 1255 Views
You need to read it for yourself, since you're completely confused. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:54:26 PM 1254 Views
Not going to argue this with you. darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:09:44 PM 1164 Views
Your own example disproved your point... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:39:25 PM 1313 Views
let's see, she's both asleep and would need hours to regain her strength darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:43:17 PM 1200 Views
Enough! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:04:06 PM 1269 Views
LOL ... whatever. You go on believing that ... no one else sees it this way. *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:20:52 PM 803 Views
What a brilliant argument! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:25:18 PM 1277 Views
this is why I refuse to continue this debate darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:31:11 PM 1222 Views
Re: Your own example disproved your point... Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:10:15 PM 1284 Views
Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:26:31 PM 1289 Views
Re: Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:31:50 PM 1273 Views
Re: Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:42:53 PM 1247 Views
Excuse me? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:28:48 PM 1341 Views
see we can agree on the relative strength of Egwene v. Forsaken darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:35:07 PM 1280 Views
??? Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:37:01 PM 1363 Views
2 middling sisters darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:45:27 PM 1287 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:26:47 AM 1209 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... Sidious - 20/11/2012 09:03:40 AM 1238 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:59:08 PM 1261 Views
None of this is backed by any evidence... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:24:12 PM 1185 Views
who said Cadsuane was 1.5x Moiraine or more? darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:03:13 PM 1204 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:41:35 PM 1217 Views
wrong darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:48:50 PM 1184 Views
My bad. Mized up 1/3 and 2/3. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:05:05 PM 1262 Views
gotcha *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:46:21 PM 772 Views
Better evidence? LOL! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:18:55 PM 1251 Views
Huh? How did you come to that conclusion? darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:40:56 PM 1244 Views
Exactly *NM* Sidious - 20/11/2012 04:55:28 PM 1219 Views
BEcause Cadsuane is close on the heels of Egwene? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:10:50 PM 1148 Views
I'm not arguing that. I agree that Cadsuane is pretty close to Egwene darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:50:34 PM 1302 Views
Re: Better evidence? LOL! Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:00:47 PM 1167 Views
Interesting, but let's go with your figures... Shannow - 19/11/2012 06:54:54 AM 1326 Views
Indeed Sidious - 19/11/2012 08:16:44 AM 1351 Views
Rand is sort of a special case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:25:02 AM 1224 Views
Regarding Mesaana... Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:42:56 AM 1251 Views
You continue to mix two things darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:24:44 PM 1151 Views
No Sidious - 20/11/2012 04:54:19 PM 1418 Views
You are mistaken darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:04:40 PM 1225 Views
Yes she did Darius! Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:27:36 PM 1179 Views
Yet there is no duel darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 06:01:17 PM 1175 Views
Explain the .3xSD thing to me... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 04:58:57 PM 1409 Views
Probably, but the AS have no idea what 37.5% means darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 02:59:26 AM 1192 Views
It's irrelevant DomA - 19/11/2012 03:46:42 AM 1285 Views
Agreed. Daigian is the marker of the absolute bottom of Aes Sedai strength. Shannow - 19/11/2012 06:55:41 AM 1239 Views
Daigian Sidious - 19/11/2012 08:12:19 AM 1241 Views
It is a direct marker due to RJ's quote Shannow - 19/11/2012 08:50:26 AM 1287 Views
You missed my point Sidious - 19/11/2012 09:08:42 AM 1204 Views
Re: You missed my point DomA - 19/11/2012 02:18:33 PM 1309 Views
Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:41:11 AM 1211 Views
Re: Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS Sidious - 20/11/2012 09:07:49 AM 1173 Views
Which would make an average AS around a 30 darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:58:56 PM 1101 Views
Re: Sure you can Tor - 19/11/2012 09:22:09 AM 1345 Views
Care to explain this... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 05:06:28 PM 1142 Views
Indeed Tor - 20/11/2012 07:16:37 AM 1350 Views
Explained far better than I ever could. Bravo. Shannow - 20/11/2012 07:30:29 AM 1217 Views
Well duh. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:57:24 PM 1309 Views
Incorrect. Shannow - 20/11/2012 04:28:07 PM 1322 Views
No fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:44:16 PM 1286 Views
Re: No Tor - 20/11/2012 04:48:36 PM 1261 Views
That depends... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:18:46 PM 1137 Views
Re: That depends... Tor - 20/11/2012 05:31:03 PM 1713 Views
You're integrating without lower limits... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:55:06 PM 1258 Views
Re: You're integrating without lower limits... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:37:57 PM 1313 Views
It matters. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:22:40 PM 1303 Views
We are not talking about a normal distribution in any case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:44:24 AM 1101 Views
Re: We are not talking about a normal distribution in any case Tor - 20/11/2012 07:02:47 AM 1298 Views
You must tell me of this special math... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:10:09 PM 1176 Views
Re: You must tell me of this special math... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:29:40 PM 1255 Views
Morghase is a placeholder... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:45:42 PM 1333 Views
Re: Morghase is a placeholder... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:49:54 PM 1604 Views
Why? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:23:29 PM 1267 Views
Re: Why? Tor - 20/11/2012 05:36:45 PM 1571 Views
Well... Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:43:59 PM 1311 Views
Re: Well... DomA - 19/11/2012 03:40:44 PM 1292 Views
Wow. Shannow - 19/11/2012 03:53:47 PM 1305 Views
Re: Wow. DomA - 19/11/2012 04:26:09 PM 1328 Views
Some points Sidious - 19/11/2012 06:03:00 PM 1362 Views
Well then you're both wrong I'm afraid Sidious - 19/11/2012 06:09:36 PM 1241 Views
Re: Well then you're both wrong I'm afraid DomA - 19/11/2012 07:42:58 PM 1118 Views
this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:51:20 AM 1311 Views
Agreed Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:13:37 AM 1367 Views
probably darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 06:18:45 PM 1201 Views
Re: this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power DomA - 20/11/2012 02:45:18 PM 1229 Views
I think RJ went out of his way to keep strength a bit of a mystery darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 08:42:44 PM 1269 Views
Indeed... DomA - 21/11/2012 05:44:18 PM 1187 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 01:43:02 AM 1456 Views
Math gurus...Is it possible to find the missing variable... Lanfear - 21/11/2012 05:12:24 PM 1249 Views
the problem is that the Mean is not going to tell us much really darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 02:55:03 AM 1332 Views
Re: the problem is that the Mean is not going to tell us much really Lanfear - 22/11/2012 03:15:33 AM 1609 Views
I do not think you can calculate the Mean without knowing the Units of Power darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 03:53:59 AM 1388 Views
Re: Math gurus...Is it possible to find the missing variable... Tor - 23/11/2012 02:59:12 PM 1705 Views
Disregard this post *NM* Tor - 23/11/2012 03:02:24 PM 1044 Views
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