Graendal is dead... the whole test Rand used to prove it was ingenious. She was known for her complex weaves of complusion which proves nearly conclusively that she was in the manor, and when she was bale-fired the complex weaves vanished from the guys brain... that is conclusive proof that she is dead, similar to the way Rand balefired Rahvin who killed Matt and Aviendha is Caemlyn.
Well, it's proof that whoever created the Compulsion - almost certainly Graendal - is dead, but there's a tiny amount of wriggling space there for her to survive.
A bigger question for me is, given how much power Rand drew through the Choeden Kal to balefire the whole palace, how far back was Graendal's thread burned from the pattern? Is Alsalam still alive? If she killed Asmodean (which I think is very likely) could it have burned back far enough that he's now alive again? This seems implausible but not impossible, though that would make a heck of a mess of the pattern.
Graendal's fate?
02/11/2009 04:18:11 AM
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I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean.
02/11/2009 04:36:37 AM
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Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean.
02/11/2009 04:40:30 AM
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Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean.
02/11/2009 05:08:09 AM
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Why has she been removed from the list of suspects?
02/11/2009 02:29:41 PM
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Could it have been Verin who killed Asmodean?
02/11/2009 05:20:37 AM
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She is dead *spoilers*
02/11/2009 05:44:21 AM
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Re: She is dead *spoilers*
03/11/2009 09:01:07 AM
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I thought so too, but KCF set me straight.. his response in a thread further down the board
02/11/2009 05:56:40 PM
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Dead as Dumbledore. But why does it preclude her from being Asmo's killer?
02/11/2009 07:04:08 AM
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Right. That info could easily be revealed through the POV of another. *NM*
02/11/2009 02:15:31 PM
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Alive until proven otherwise IMO *spoilers*
02/11/2009 03:47:51 PM
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That weave was very complex.
02/11/2009 10:34:36 PM
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Actually, the one that Rand had Nynaeve study earlier was more complex.
04/11/2009 05:11:07 PM
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Almost certainly dead
02/11/2009 04:48:18 PM
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Not even almost. Graendal and Sammael now both go well with eggs. *NM*
03/11/2009 01:51:15 AM
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Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was more cunning
04/11/2009 05:03:38 PM
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Re: Balefire.
04/11/2009 05:30:12 PM
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Not necessarily.
04/11/2009 06:08:34 PM
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The thing is...
04/11/2009 06:25:43 PM
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Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand.
04/11/2009 10:30:05 PM
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Re: Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand.
09/11/2009 01:48:30 AM
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Hm. Possible.
04/11/2009 06:42:12 PM
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That's just absurd
04/11/2009 10:48:30 PM
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No, I'm making it more simple.
04/11/2009 11:11:36 PM
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That thoery doesn't account for the undoing of the Compulsion
04/11/2009 11:50:06 PM
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Yes, it does. Distance causes maintained weaves and Links to attenuate.
05/11/2009 04:22:37 PM
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Yes, but Compulsion is almost never a maintained weave *NM*
06/11/2009 07:19:24 PM
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Amen! Praise the Great Lord of the Dark!
**I agree with all points**
05/11/2009 07:21:52 AM
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Re: Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was
18/11/2009 10:52:36 PM
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Proof for reincarnation exists
26/11/2009 06:38:17 PM
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RJ said...
26/11/2009 06:51:26 PM
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