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This sounds familiar. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 09/11/2009 06:54:17 AM
You know, at first, I had the same reaction. I figured it couldn't be as easy as that. But let's face reality: the Forsaken are completely inept. From Balthamel who was killed by a walking garden and Aginor who overdrew on the Source like an untrained Wilder, to Be'lal who got backstabbed and killed in a single blow after appearing for all of one scene, to Lanfear who despite being the most powerful woman in the Power and using an angreal, died from being randomly tackled, to Rahvin and Sammael who died from the intervention of another Forsaken on behalf of the Light, to Osan'gar who was randomly killed by a circle at the Cleansing and culminating with Semirhage's poorly thought out plan and subsequent destruction with her master's own Power, the Forsaken were never meant to really be awe inspiring once we got to know them.

Rand almost ripped the Pattern apart through massive usage of balefire, that was the purpose of that scene. Granedal was only a means to that end. She was never consequential.

I expect she's dead. And I expect that this will be the new 'Semirhage was planning to get captured all along' that we witnessed after Knife of Dreams. No, she really did fail that badly.
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Graendal's fate? - 02/11/2009 04:18:11 AM 1951 Views
Dead. - 02/11/2009 04:22:48 AM 913 Views
Maybe... - 02/11/2009 04:28:16 AM 891 Views
I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. - 02/11/2009 04:36:37 AM 928 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. - 02/11/2009 04:40:30 AM 889 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. - 02/11/2009 05:08:09 AM 828 Views
Why has she been removed from the list of suspects? - 02/11/2009 02:29:41 PM 809 Views
She is dead - 09/11/2009 01:37:03 AM 759 Views
That's pretty terrible logic - 19/11/2009 05:58:57 AM 937 Views
I disagree. - 02/11/2009 10:29:21 PM 768 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 19/11/2009 11:43:45 AM 379 Views
Could it have been Verin who killed Asmodean? - 02/11/2009 05:20:37 AM 1332 Views
She is dead *spoilers* - 02/11/2009 05:44:21 AM 915 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* - 03/11/2009 09:01:07 AM 779 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* - 09/11/2009 01:38:56 AM 885 Views
I say dead. *NM* - 02/11/2009 06:07:15 AM 422 Views
Dead. - 02/11/2009 06:46:10 AM 764 Views
Dead as Dumbledore. But why does it preclude her from being Asmo's killer? - 02/11/2009 07:04:08 AM 854 Views
Right. That info could easily be revealed through the POV of another. *NM* - 02/11/2009 02:15:31 PM 378 Views
It could but... - 02/11/2009 03:14:23 PM 844 Views
Moridin would most likely know. - 02/11/2009 04:06:04 PM 759 Views
Well.... - 02/11/2009 08:52:52 AM 816 Views
*NM* - 18/11/2009 10:45:52 PM 362 Views
Alive until proven otherwise IMO *spoilers* - 02/11/2009 03:47:51 PM 833 Views
That weave was very complex. - 02/11/2009 10:34:36 PM 749 Views
Actually, the one that Rand had Nynaeve study earlier was more complex. - 04/11/2009 05:11:07 PM 837 Views
But you can't reverse Compulsion by unraveling it, right? - 18/11/2009 10:48:08 PM 787 Views
Almost certainly dead - 02/11/2009 04:48:18 PM 924 Views
Yeah. Compared to, say, Sammael's "death" - 02/11/2009 10:40:01 PM 836 Views
Not even almost. Graendal and Sammael now both go well with eggs. *NM* - 03/11/2009 01:51:15 AM 404 Views
Oh, I agree, but fiction, deus ex machina, etc - 04/11/2009 09:58:42 PM 764 Views
Graendal is dead. the evidence is pretty hard - 03/11/2009 08:00:27 PM 3104 Views
Well, unlike everyone else, - 04/11/2009 01:34:57 AM 764 Views
Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was more cunning - 04/11/2009 05:03:38 PM 948 Views
Re: Balefire. - 04/11/2009 05:30:12 PM 773 Views
Not necessarily. - 04/11/2009 06:08:34 PM 741 Views
The thing is... - 04/11/2009 06:25:43 PM 811 Views
Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. - 04/11/2009 10:30:05 PM 1006 Views
Hm. Possible. - 04/11/2009 06:42:12 PM 1054 Views
I think it's the most simple possibility. - 04/11/2009 10:39:02 PM 772 Views
Re: I think it's the most simple possibility. - 09/11/2009 01:51:52 AM 708 Views
That's just absurd - 04/11/2009 10:48:30 PM 850 Views
No, I'm making it more simple. - 04/11/2009 11:11:36 PM 785 Views
That thoery doesn't account for the undoing of the Compulsion - 04/11/2009 11:50:06 PM 800 Views
Yes, it does. Distance causes maintained weaves and Links to attenuate. - 05/11/2009 04:22:37 PM 840 Views
Yes, but Compulsion is almost never a maintained weave *NM* - 06/11/2009 07:19:24 PM 427 Views
But the real question in my mind... - 02/12/2009 08:28:31 PM 764 Views
Well - 06/12/2009 08:45:12 PM 1209 Views
Odds are she's dead - 06/12/2009 08:48:19 PM 652 Views
Re: No, I'm making it more simple. - 09/11/2009 01:53:49 AM 777 Views
Amen! Praise the Great Lord of the Dark! **I agree with all points** - 05/11/2009 07:21:52 AM 806 Views
This sounds familiar. - 09/11/2009 06:54:17 AM 719 Views
Yes... - 17/11/2009 12:12:04 PM 713 Views
Yeah, I was shocked initially. - 18/11/2009 10:58:15 PM 783 Views
Proof for reincarnation exists - 26/11/2009 06:38:17 PM 744 Views
RJ said... - 26/11/2009 06:51:26 PM 879 Views
But Rand's was spread over a LARGE area *NM* - 27/11/2009 12:17:47 AM 335 Views
He was drawing through the Choedan Kal... *NM* - 27/11/2009 01:09:23 AM 326 Views

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