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Huh .... Yondaime Send a noteboard - 06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM
That certainly makes it sound like Lan is the best. If no one else is able to top Rand (apparently before he lost his hand) besides Lan, it certainly implies that Lan is the top dog. I assume that this is referring to Rand sometime after he lost to Riatin, but before he lost his hand.

However, things have changed since then - the text in TGS certainly makes Gawyn out to be an extraordinary swordsman. The thing that makes me think that he might be able to take on Lan is the simple fact that BSand used the plot device of Lan as a reference point to indicate how talented Gawyn is. Lan lost a third of his matches against the dude (for some reason, I can't recall his name. I think it was 'Sleete' or something, but that doesn't sound right somehow). Two in seven is practically the same as one in three. As I recall, Gawyn fought three or so matches against two warders at once, and won every time. The numbers say that Gawyn is better than Lan. There are other factors that come into play as well though. For example, Lan may not have been at the peak of his skill when he was still sparring with the Warders.

It's hard to tell, IMO. If I had to lean one way or another, I'd call it for Gawyn. I'm more inclined to think that Lan's skill has started to decrease with age, but that is something we can only speculate about.
"Take the Gleeman!" Rand and Mat cried, throwing Thom to the Myrddraal. Then they ran away as fast as they could, and Thom's screams quickly faded into the distance along with any inconvenient feelings of guilt.
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Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) - 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM 2609 Views
Gawyn. *chokes back the vomit that rushes up his throat* - 04/02/2010 10:53:37 PM 1344 Views
There there - 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM 1237 Views
Huh? He was even WORSE in TGS. - 05/02/2010 05:14:16 AM 1128 Views
I dunno. He actaully DID stuff this time - 05/02/2010 05:24:48 AM 1192 Views
I agree he was much better than before - 05/02/2010 04:39:33 PM 1105 Views
It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. - 04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM 1196 Views
Re: It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. - 05/02/2010 01:13:52 AM 1184 Views
Gawyn is incredibly irritating - 05/02/2010 01:55:40 AM 1210 Views
No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. - 05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM 1089 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. - 05/02/2010 10:44:47 PM 1116 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. - 05/02/2010 11:53:18 PM 1210 Views
Perhaps the key is that Gawyn is an even more simplistic thinker than Galad. - 06/02/2010 06:20:06 AM 1068 Views
Again, what? When? - 06/02/2010 08:08:47 AM 1086 Views
Well, the fact that he's had access to one of the best educations in Randland - 06/02/2010 09:22:28 AM 1049 Views
Completely different subjects, and pretty insignificant, really. *NM* - 06/02/2010 06:44:35 PM 786 Views
the person to beat Gawyn is Mat - 06/02/2010 06:36:03 AM 1332 Views
Perrin would beat Lan?! *NM* - 06/02/2010 05:52:47 PM 1024 Views
Sure, Gawyn is better - 05/02/2010 02:26:45 AM 1145 Views
Re: Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) - 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM 1250 Views
- 05/02/2010 04:47:17 AM 945 Views
Add Nynaeve and Egwene to the fight, that's something worth seeing then. - 05/02/2010 05:20:53 AM 1235 Views
Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass - 05/02/2010 04:55:51 PM 1200 Views
I agree. - 05/02/2010 05:10:34 PM 1153 Views
Re: I agree. - 05/02/2010 05:25:52 PM 1353 Views
You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. - 05/02/2010 07:41:28 PM 1246 Views
Re: You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. - 05/02/2010 09:42:32 PM 1174 Views
I just mentioned it since you said Egwene had more combat experience. - 06/02/2010 06:21:38 AM 1110 Views
I think you are missunderstanding me - 07/02/2010 02:04:13 AM 1168 Views
Re: Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass - 05/02/2010 07:49:27 PM 1722 Views
Totally agree. *NM* - 05/02/2010 07:52:48 PM 1148 Views
yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test - 05/02/2010 09:41:09 PM 1144 Views
Re: yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test - 05/02/2010 10:00:11 PM 1048 Views
Nynaeve might have trouble... - 05/02/2010 10:24:56 PM 1136 Views
That's not what RJ said. He said Nynaeve would be a little hard pressed - 05/02/2010 10:18:42 PM 952 Views
she might be a little hard pressed to pass a test she should pass without thought! - 06/02/2010 05:56:38 PM 850 Views
Moiraine was hard pressed to pass, and she practiced for ages and is the #1 Battle AS. - 06/02/2010 08:27:26 PM 1079 Views
she passed pretty easily IMO - 06/02/2010 09:12:13 PM 1157 Views
The test for the Shawl has little to nothing to do with channeling, you know this right? *NM* - 05/02/2010 10:23:16 PM 719 Views
Are you being serious? *NM* - 06/02/2010 08:57:33 AM 770 Views
of course it does - 06/02/2010 05:48:41 PM 1124 Views
That's not how it happens in New Spring. - 06/02/2010 07:00:52 PM 1046 Views
that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS) - 06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM 1120 Views
That's nonsensical. - 06/02/2010 09:02:13 PM 1123 Views
It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization" - 06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM 1024 Views
Well, if RJ said it, I guess it must be true. - 06/02/2010 11:17:19 PM 1045 Views
*shrugs* - 07/02/2010 12:59:00 AM 1040 Views
Towers of Midnight spoilers: - 09/11/2010 05:29:05 AM 1041 Views
Re: That's not how it happens in New Spring. - 06/02/2010 08:28:52 PM 1027 Views
Right... - 06/02/2010 08:58:04 PM 977 Views
About splitting weaves 14 ways - 05/02/2010 10:55:28 PM 1124 Views
Re: About splitting weaves 14 ways - 05/02/2010 11:08:50 PM 1012 Views
Can you provide that quote? - 06/02/2010 07:34:49 PM 1096 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? - 06/02/2010 08:19:08 PM 1101 Views
there is nothing to say that multiple weaves are involved. - 06/02/2010 09:16:29 PM 1019 Views
That's the nature on the weaving. - 06/02/2010 09:24:39 PM 1079 Views
Not really - 06/02/2010 10:46:52 PM 1113 Views
Yes, really - 06/02/2010 10:55:22 PM 1107 Views
Re: Yes, really - 06/02/2010 11:29:17 PM 1007 Views
Re: Yes, really - 06/02/2010 11:48:14 PM 1007 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 12:18:12 AM 1050 Views
Oh! Forgot another analogy - 07/02/2010 01:13:27 AM 1023 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 01:46:14 AM 1038 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 01:59:44 AM 988 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 06:36:48 PM 1044 Views
IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill - 06/02/2010 09:01:23 AM 1041 Views
Re: IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill - 06/02/2010 09:29:06 AM 1186 Views
I agree ... it's much like Rand's approach to Graendal - 06/02/2010 05:51:17 PM 1073 Views
so you've learned nothing from Cyndane v. Alivia. - 06/02/2010 05:45:19 PM 1002 Views
Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. - 06/02/2010 08:33:08 PM 1129 Views
Re: Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. - 06/02/2010 09:17:40 PM 1116 Views
It's a lone example contested by many other examples - 07/02/2010 09:53:51 AM 1020 Views
the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien - 07/02/2010 01:57:43 PM 1123 Views
Re: the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien - 07/02/2010 04:25:57 PM 1030 Views
from RJs lips to your ears ... - 07/02/2010 06:55:27 PM 1114 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... - 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM 964 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... - 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM 966 Views
... but I can't let this one go... - 07/02/2010 11:09:04 PM 1203 Views
Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan - 07/02/2010 11:16:30 PM 1204 Views
Re: Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan - 08/02/2010 09:43:15 AM 996 Views
Hmm... - 07/02/2010 11:05:00 PM 1030 Views
I disagree - 06/02/2010 05:30:40 AM 1001 Views
Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear - 06/02/2010 05:46:27 PM 1033 Views
Re: Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear - 06/02/2010 08:23:20 PM 1030 Views
she got hit with a pain weave before she did a damn thing - 06/02/2010 09:21:11 PM 1034 Views
lol - 07/02/2010 01:55:18 AM 1062 Views
Go look below at some of the quotes I've provided - 07/02/2010 01:59:51 AM 1117 Views
If the Power was used, I would agree - 06/02/2010 05:59:14 PM 1044 Views
On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM 971 Views
Exactly my point - 06/02/2010 10:49:49 PM 983 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 06/02/2010 11:12:27 PM 2282 Views
plenty of evidence that Nynaeve is unskilled outside of Healing - 07/02/2010 01:21:20 AM 1086 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 07/02/2010 08:02:40 AM 1091 Views
There was one other very skilled Healer in the series... - 07/02/2010 06:44:41 PM 1026 Views
I'm sure she could if she bothered to train - 07/02/2010 06:57:17 PM 870 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 06/02/2010 11:15:59 PM 1019 Views
Nope - 07/02/2010 01:26:19 AM 1069 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 07/02/2010 08:21:19 AM 1218 Views
Egwene and Nynaeve had already confront each other - 07/02/2010 08:45:23 AM 1150 Views
but whoever wins - 05/02/2010 04:54:52 AM 1084 Views
*nods* That's cuz ... - 05/02/2010 05:26:57 AM 1148 Views
I actually think Lan would win - 05/02/2010 04:57:24 PM 1096 Views
Agreed - 05/02/2010 08:22:26 PM 1060 Views
I think Lan, hands down. - 05/02/2010 03:30:20 PM 966 Views
THANK you. - 05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM 9599 Views
Re: THANK you. - 06/02/2010 06:26:04 AM 1071 Views
Gawyn and Galad have become tough - 06/02/2010 09:04:25 AM 1236 Views
Re: Gawyn and Galad have become tough - 06/02/2010 09:31:51 AM 936 Views
Gawyn is destined to protect the Great Mother ( Egwene ) - 05/02/2010 04:11:51 PM 1114 Views
Hopper!!!!! *NM* - 06/02/2010 12:21:25 AM 703 Views
Hasn't Hopper already lost in a fight? *NM* - 06/02/2010 01:48:19 AM 679 Views
According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... - 06/02/2010 08:55:50 AM 1118 Views
That can't be right, can it? - 06/02/2010 05:51:04 PM 1102 Views
Even in NS only Ryne is known to be better than Lan - 07/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 1153 Views
Huh .... - 06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM 1098 Views
I don't recall Rand loosing to Riatin. - 06/02/2010 06:39:31 PM 1093 Views
Well, to be fair, the text doesn't mention much - 07/02/2010 12:48:59 AM 1059 Views
Re: According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... - 06/02/2010 06:28:15 PM 1053 Views
"Gawhine"... I like it. *NM* - 06/02/2010 08:40:32 PM 701 Views
If Gawyn is the best because he defeated two Warders, what about Rand? - 06/02/2010 09:15:34 PM 1069 Views
These are pointless. - 09/02/2010 12:52:21 AM 1128 Views
These are scalar comparatives - 24/02/2010 09:45:11 PM 1082 Views

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