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It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization" darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM
Every passage is about the difficulty to Moiraine maintaining her composure, never any difficulty channeling. And the last one. The one that was apparently designed to make her fail. Do you seriously believe that meeting her father and hearing of her dying mother would cause her trouble channeling?


She spent months working on making sure she had the weaves under control ... if she screwed up on any one of the 100 she would have failed as surely as if she had panicked. It's a multi-tiered system of tests.

RJ's point about Nynaeve specifically points out that she would have trouble because she "had too much specialization" ... that's clearly an OP issue.


Obviously if the weaves weren't executed, the adherent would fail, but it's not the main purpose of the test. And to think that Nynaeve would have trouble with that facet is ridiculous. From The Great Hunt where even before she has learned to actively channel, she can repeat any weave after seeing it just once, to The Gathering Storm where she actually has no problem learning the very weaves involved in the test, it is pretty much an established fact that learning weaves is not a difficulty for Nynaeve.


Give her a few months of practice and she'd have no problem, but at the moment her weaving is considered "clumsy" by most other Channelers. I'm not saying her ability isn't amazing, but it's obvious that her training is sub-par.
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Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) - 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM 3006 Views
Gawyn. *chokes back the vomit that rushes up his throat* - 04/02/2010 10:53:37 PM 1742 Views
There there - 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM 1679 Views
Huh? He was even WORSE in TGS. - 05/02/2010 05:14:16 AM 1532 Views
I dunno. He actaully DID stuff this time - 05/02/2010 05:24:48 AM 1658 Views
I agree he was much better than before - 05/02/2010 04:39:33 PM 1494 Views
It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. - 04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM 1728 Views
Re: It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. - 05/02/2010 01:13:52 AM 1612 Views
Gawyn is incredibly irritating - 05/02/2010 01:55:40 AM 1599 Views
No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. - 05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM 1544 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. - 05/02/2010 10:44:47 PM 1544 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. - 05/02/2010 11:53:18 PM 1639 Views
Perhaps the key is that Gawyn is an even more simplistic thinker than Galad. - 06/02/2010 06:20:06 AM 1541 Views
Again, what? When? - 06/02/2010 08:08:47 AM 1525 Views
Well, the fact that he's had access to one of the best educations in Randland - 06/02/2010 09:22:28 AM 1484 Views
Completely different subjects, and pretty insignificant, really. *NM* - 06/02/2010 06:44:35 PM 1006 Views
the person to beat Gawyn is Mat - 06/02/2010 06:36:03 AM 1755 Views
Perrin would beat Lan?! *NM* - 06/02/2010 05:52:47 PM 1443 Views
Sure, Gawyn is better - 05/02/2010 02:26:45 AM 1539 Views
Re: Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) - 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM 1704 Views
- 05/02/2010 04:47:17 AM 1384 Views
Add Nynaeve and Egwene to the fight, that's something worth seeing then. - 05/02/2010 05:20:53 AM 1658 Views
Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass - 05/02/2010 04:55:51 PM 1618 Views
I agree. - 05/02/2010 05:10:34 PM 1570 Views
Re: I agree. - 05/02/2010 05:25:52 PM 1807 Views
You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. - 05/02/2010 07:41:28 PM 1659 Views
Re: You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. - 05/02/2010 09:42:32 PM 1629 Views
I just mentioned it since you said Egwene had more combat experience. - 06/02/2010 06:21:38 AM 1544 Views
I think you are missunderstanding me - 07/02/2010 02:04:13 AM 1604 Views
Re: Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass - 05/02/2010 07:49:27 PM 2165 Views
Totally agree. *NM* - 05/02/2010 07:52:48 PM 1537 Views
yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test - 05/02/2010 09:41:09 PM 1560 Views
Re: yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test - 05/02/2010 10:00:11 PM 1475 Views
Nynaeve might have trouble... - 05/02/2010 10:24:56 PM 1573 Views
That's not what RJ said. He said Nynaeve would be a little hard pressed - 05/02/2010 10:18:42 PM 1359 Views
she might be a little hard pressed to pass a test she should pass without thought! - 06/02/2010 05:56:38 PM 1270 Views
Moiraine was hard pressed to pass, and she practiced for ages and is the #1 Battle AS. - 06/02/2010 08:27:26 PM 1481 Views
she passed pretty easily IMO - 06/02/2010 09:12:13 PM 1592 Views
The test for the Shawl has little to nothing to do with channeling, you know this right? *NM* - 05/02/2010 10:23:16 PM 925 Views
Are you being serious? *NM* - 06/02/2010 08:57:33 AM 953 Views
of course it does - 06/02/2010 05:48:41 PM 1564 Views
That's not how it happens in New Spring. - 06/02/2010 07:00:52 PM 1430 Views
that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS) - 06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM 1572 Views
That's nonsensical. - 06/02/2010 09:02:13 PM 1579 Views
It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization" - 06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM 1445 Views
Well, if RJ said it, I guess it must be true. - 06/02/2010 11:17:19 PM 1534 Views
*shrugs* - 07/02/2010 12:59:00 AM 1452 Views
Towers of Midnight spoilers: - 09/11/2010 05:29:05 AM 1489 Views
Re: That's not how it happens in New Spring. - 06/02/2010 08:28:52 PM 1460 Views
Right... - 06/02/2010 08:58:04 PM 1376 Views
About splitting weaves 14 ways - 05/02/2010 10:55:28 PM 1546 Views
Re: About splitting weaves 14 ways - 05/02/2010 11:08:50 PM 1408 Views
Can you provide that quote? - 06/02/2010 07:34:49 PM 1509 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? - 06/02/2010 08:19:08 PM 1545 Views
there is nothing to say that multiple weaves are involved. - 06/02/2010 09:16:29 PM 1439 Views
That's the nature on the weaving. - 06/02/2010 09:24:39 PM 1508 Views
Not really - 06/02/2010 10:46:52 PM 1539 Views
Yes, really - 06/02/2010 10:55:22 PM 1515 Views
Re: Yes, really - 06/02/2010 11:29:17 PM 1481 Views
Re: Yes, really - 06/02/2010 11:48:14 PM 1419 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 12:18:12 AM 1507 Views
Oh! Forgot another analogy - 07/02/2010 01:13:27 AM 1436 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 01:46:14 AM 1461 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 01:59:44 AM 1396 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 06:36:48 PM 1468 Views
IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill - 06/02/2010 09:01:23 AM 1482 Views
Re: IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill - 06/02/2010 09:29:06 AM 1604 Views
I agree ... it's much like Rand's approach to Graendal - 06/02/2010 05:51:17 PM 1492 Views
so you've learned nothing from Cyndane v. Alivia. - 06/02/2010 05:45:19 PM 1430 Views
Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. - 06/02/2010 08:33:08 PM 1581 Views
Re: Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. - 06/02/2010 09:17:40 PM 1526 Views
It's a lone example contested by many other examples - 07/02/2010 09:53:51 AM 1500 Views
the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien - 07/02/2010 01:57:43 PM 1565 Views
Re: the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien - 07/02/2010 04:25:57 PM 1489 Views
from RJs lips to your ears ... - 07/02/2010 06:55:27 PM 1518 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... - 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM 1394 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... - 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM 1372 Views
... but I can't let this one go... - 07/02/2010 11:09:04 PM 1626 Views
Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan - 07/02/2010 11:16:30 PM 1626 Views
Re: Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan - 08/02/2010 09:43:15 AM 1465 Views
Hmm... - 07/02/2010 11:05:00 PM 1465 Views
I disagree - 06/02/2010 05:30:40 AM 1416 Views
Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear - 06/02/2010 05:46:27 PM 1478 Views
Re: Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear - 06/02/2010 08:23:20 PM 1479 Views
she got hit with a pain weave before she did a damn thing - 06/02/2010 09:21:11 PM 1457 Views
lol - 07/02/2010 01:55:18 AM 1465 Views
Go look below at some of the quotes I've provided - 07/02/2010 01:59:51 AM 1547 Views
If the Power was used, I would agree - 06/02/2010 05:59:14 PM 1473 Views
On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM 1405 Views
Exactly my point - 06/02/2010 10:49:49 PM 1441 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 06/02/2010 11:12:27 PM 2810 Views
plenty of evidence that Nynaeve is unskilled outside of Healing - 07/02/2010 01:21:20 AM 1559 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 07/02/2010 08:02:40 AM 1492 Views
There was one other very skilled Healer in the series... - 07/02/2010 06:44:41 PM 1438 Views
I'm sure she could if she bothered to train - 07/02/2010 06:57:17 PM 1319 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 06/02/2010 11:15:59 PM 1478 Views
Nope - 07/02/2010 01:26:19 AM 1545 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 07/02/2010 08:21:19 AM 1689 Views
Egwene and Nynaeve had already confront each other - 07/02/2010 08:45:23 AM 1611 Views
but whoever wins - 05/02/2010 04:54:52 AM 1535 Views
*nods* That's cuz ... - 05/02/2010 05:26:57 AM 1591 Views
I actually think Lan would win - 05/02/2010 04:57:24 PM 1519 Views
Agreed - 05/02/2010 08:22:26 PM 1478 Views
I think Lan, hands down. - 05/02/2010 03:30:20 PM 1366 Views
THANK you. - 05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM 10023 Views
Re: THANK you. - 06/02/2010 06:26:04 AM 1456 Views
Gawyn and Galad have become tough - 06/02/2010 09:04:25 AM 1664 Views
Re: Gawyn and Galad have become tough - 06/02/2010 09:31:51 AM 1354 Views
Gawyn is destined to protect the Great Mother ( Egwene ) - 05/02/2010 04:11:51 PM 1552 Views
Hopper!!!!! *NM* - 06/02/2010 12:21:25 AM 905 Views
Hasn't Hopper already lost in a fight? *NM* - 06/02/2010 01:48:19 AM 866 Views
According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... - 06/02/2010 08:55:50 AM 1548 Views
That can't be right, can it? - 06/02/2010 05:51:04 PM 1528 Views
Even in NS only Ryne is known to be better than Lan - 07/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 1585 Views
Huh .... - 06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM 1524 Views
I don't recall Rand loosing to Riatin. - 06/02/2010 06:39:31 PM 1495 Views
Well, to be fair, the text doesn't mention much - 07/02/2010 12:48:59 AM 1483 Views
Re: According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... - 06/02/2010 06:28:15 PM 1468 Views
"Gawhine"... I like it. *NM* - 06/02/2010 08:40:32 PM 894 Views
If Gawyn is the best because he defeated two Warders, what about Rand? - 06/02/2010 09:15:34 PM 1476 Views
These are pointless. - 09/02/2010 12:52:21 AM 1531 Views
These are scalar comparatives - 24/02/2010 09:45:11 PM 1481 Views

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