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Without the Tower Voscaia Sedai Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 02:05:09 PM
- Most weaves would have been forgotten in the Westlands
- Nobody would be able to teach the girls with the spark, leaving most (if not all of them) with some kind of Block like Nynaeve had before Ebou Dar or even dead or burnt out
- Nobody would be able to teach those without the spark reducing the number of Channelers by 80% or so
- plus everything Salty already mentioned

Of course you could say there's the Aiel and Windfinders, but they're not interested in the Westlands. And don't say "There's the Kin", as this group would not exist either without the Tower!
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You know... it feels like the Aes Sedai are pretty superflouous beetnemesis - 02/09/2009 09:48:19 PM 1376 Views
Y'know, the paralells betwen the Aes Sedai in the White Tower... vandevere - 02/09/2009 10:46:29 PM 928 Views
Well said. Hadn't really thought of it that way before *NM* Bryce - 03/09/2009 12:01:30 AM 553 Views
That is the inspiration for the Aes Sedai that RJ used - I can't find the article, though. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/09/2009 02:39:14 PM 883 Views
When I was reading this I was thinking of the paralells between the white tower and Tashmere - 03/09/2009 02:47:33 AM 1161 Views
And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 03:37:14 AM 941 Views
Re: And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. Corwin - 03/09/2009 05:46:13 AM 913 Views
Really? fionwe1987 - 03/09/2009 05:52:38 AM 881 Views
Re: Really? Corwin - 03/09/2009 06:03:13 AM 838 Views
So lets add a few more NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 11:42:48 AM 850 Views
most of these are accounted for above ranagrande - 03/09/2009 02:18:01 PM 924 Views
Just because we don't know all their names, doesn't mean their effectiveness on the Pattern was less RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/09/2009 03:19:41 PM 935 Views
But who did the work? NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 05:37:00 PM 744 Views
While these are good, none of it is because of the White Tower beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:43:56 PM 769 Views
So if Elaida didn't order it, it doesn't count? NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 07:29:20 PM 785 Views
Actually I think that's his point ranagrande - 04/09/2009 01:40:37 PM 884 Views
Spot-on beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 08:56:30 PM 710 Views
Re: Actually I think that's his point NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 03:17:25 AM 739 Views
Re: But who did the work? ranagrande - 04/09/2009 01:32:19 PM 838 Views
Only one point because obviously your mind is made up. NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 06:13:23 AM 850 Views
well, yeah ranagrande - 05/09/2009 02:33:51 PM 876 Views
In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. fionwe1987 - 05/09/2009 03:03:07 PM 785 Views
Re: In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 766 Views
No, fionwe1987 is absolutely right! ranagrande - 05/09/2009 05:13:39 PM 733 Views
I'm glad the real world disagrees with you NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 05:05:50 PM 788 Views
I'm not convinced that it does ranagrande - 05/09/2009 05:44:10 PM 869 Views
I don't understand your point Sidious - 03/09/2009 04:25:22 PM 791 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Corwin - 03/09/2009 09:09:38 PM 838 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Sidious - 03/09/2009 09:23:53 PM 775 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Corwin - 05/09/2009 09:02:47 AM 1013 Views
Re: I don't understand your point NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 09:49:58 PM 774 Views
I was talking about the WT specifically, and only during recent years. It's Gotta be the Shadow, beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:39:11 PM 781 Views
So what you are really saying is that if you ignore over 2/3rds of the AS the rest aren't doing much NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 06:07:23 PM 730 Views
I'm talking about the organization as a whole beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 10:07:37 PM 801 Views
No you are talking about Elaida NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM 755 Views
You just made our point... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2009 12:49:44 AM 805 Views
Well, because most of her actions infringe on that "bubble" beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 09:00:52 PM 729 Views
Not at all... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2009 09:23:09 PM 835 Views
WT has been THE single greatest force for stagancy and lack of development. Lohikaarme - 09/09/2009 08:58:58 AM 761 Views
Like I said earlier the AS are superfluous except the ones who aren't superfluous. NaClH2O - 09/09/2009 11:55:47 AM 852 Views
To a certain extent ajsr1982 - 03/09/2009 11:33:30 AM 1036 Views
Definitely. And Egwene is in denial. beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:53:14 PM 811 Views
Some pretty big blanket statements NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:24:50 PM 931 Views
Without the Tower Voscaia Sedai - 03/09/2009 02:05:09 PM 703 Views
Actually, I think Verin is a good metaphor here. nossy - 03/09/2009 07:59:46 PM 740 Views
Agrees with Nossy NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:44:06 PM 1048 Views
That's mostly what I was trying to say beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 09:03:52 PM 726 Views
Re: That's mostly what I was trying to say NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 03:33:46 AM 1067 Views
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