Re: My sentiments exactly, though I think I'm a little more hopeful than you are.
orius Send a noteboard - 14/02/2010 09:26:47 AM
Neverthless, my instinctual feeling is that they will clash in the next book (over the AM/AS bonding issue), and that it will only be resolved at the end of ToM if at all. There is certainly a chance that Egwene will turn out like Lara Posae (sp?), who forsook LTT before the Strike @ SG.
I don't know if she's going to go that extreme, but there will be problems. Elaida's foretelling in aCoS of the Dragon facing the Amyrlin and knowing her anger tells us that Rand and Egwene's next meeting will have problems. We're all smarter than Elaida, and we've realized for years the Amyrlin in that Foretelling was likely to be Egwene.
The bonding issue will be one, but perhaps not the worst. Rand to his credit tried to smooth things over by allowing the rebel AS to bond AM. Naturally, Taim did his part to torpedo that at the end of KoD. So, Rand isn't going to be happy about the Red sisters bonding AM, and it's possible (some here would say likely) that Egwene will get her ass bent out of shape about the bonded AS anyway no matter that Rand did offer a compromise. Personally, I think that whole genie is out of the bottle and there's nothing either Rand or Egwene can do about it. My view for a while has been that the AM will eventually replace the Warders as AM and AS mutually bond each other and possibly do so as a marriage.
No, Egwene's going to be in a snit over her assumption that Rand Compelled sisters to swear fealty. This while conveniently ignoring the fact that he's ta'veren. That's had her shift in a bunch for a while.
Then there's the whole Seanchan WT attack. Tuon only launched that after Rand scared her with his attempt to Compel or whatever her into a truce. So Rand could be blamed for that, if the AS learn why the Seanchan launched the attack. This actually would be a legitimate reason for Egwene to be angry with Rand, since he provoked an attack against the WT, which cost them at least 40 sisters lost as damane, perhaps more killed in the fighting, and the rather significant damage done to the WT itself. And if it was Compulsion he tried to pull, there will be plenty of AS anger, since that's just as outlawed as balefire. Again, this is assuming the AS learn that the attack on the WT occured because the Seanchan saw the DR and WT/AS as a threat.
God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene
- 14/02/2010 07:02:20 AM
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My sentiments exactly, though I think I'm a little more hopeful than you are.
- 14/02/2010 07:58:01 AM
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Re: My sentiments exactly, though I think I'm a little more hopeful than you are.
- 14/02/2010 09:26:47 AM
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Just like Elayne treated him so well when she kicked him out of Andor?
- 14/02/2010 01:35:32 PM
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What? We are no longer allowed to make predictions of the coming books unless they're pro-Egwene?
- 14/02/2010 02:22:10 PM
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a theory vs. mindlessly attacking a character because you don't like them?
- 14/02/2010 07:00:27 PM
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It IS kind of ridiculous... but how do YOU think a meeting will go?
- 14/02/2010 07:20:08 PM
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Is Egwene going to do what Elayne did when she met Rand after tearing down his banners?
- 15/02/2010 11:25:27 AM
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You just KNOW that rather than compliment all the good he's done....
- 14/02/2010 03:06:09 PM
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Personally, I'm rooting for Elaida's Foretelling to be fake
- 14/02/2010 06:56:41 PM
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No way these are fake... she's not BA and she she says she's having a Foretelling
- 14/02/2010 08:24:29 PM
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Good point. And the "rent in fire and blood" part is almost certain as well.
- 16/02/2010 05:13:29 PM
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Take a sedative
- 14/02/2010 07:52:32 PM
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None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping
- 14/02/2010 09:01:35 PM
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Right cause Nynaeve is always going around telling people how much Mat's changed
- 14/02/2010 09:27:02 PM
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If you'll recall what Mat did 5 minutes after...
- 14/02/2010 11:06:41 PM
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Not really
- 14/02/2010 11:34:49 PM
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Re: Not really
- 15/02/2010 03:32:06 PM
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better than Nynaeve who just lies to herself in order to justify her actions!
- 15/02/2010 05:53:17 PM
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This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve.
- 15/02/2010 06:09:46 PM
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actually it's about all of the main characters
- 15/02/2010 06:13:27 PM
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Re: actually it's about all of the main characters
- 15/02/2010 06:39:25 PM
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Well said.
- 15/02/2010 07:20:47 PM
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Re: Well said.
- 15/02/2010 07:43:08 PM
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yet even Siuan seems to understand and accept Egwene's response ... odd that you can hold her to
- 16/02/2010 01:55:35 AM
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Oh, so Elaida's treatment of Sheremin is ok because Sheremin accepted it?
- 16/02/2010 06:49:53 AM
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watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon
- 16/02/2010 01:51:09 AM
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Re: watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon
- 16/02/2010 07:04:08 AM
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Alright enough. Will you read the books already?
- 16/02/2010 08:03:39 AM
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The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason
- 16/02/2010 01:34:30 AM
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Re: The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason
- 16/02/2010 07:08:13 AM
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Yes, but Egwene's is pride -
- 15/02/2010 07:04:25 PM
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I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none
- 15/02/2010 08:52:54 PM
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Re: None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping
- 15/02/2010 05:08:49 AM
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It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour
- 15/02/2010 06:53:30 AM
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Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour
- 15/02/2010 08:41:02 AM
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Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour
- 15/02/2010 03:31:26 PM
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Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour
- 15/02/2010 11:57:24 AM
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Who says Egwene didn't have a destiny? *NM*
- 15/02/2010 12:46:10 PM
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Me. And I'm way smarter than you.
- 15/02/2010 01:04:48 PM
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- 15/02/2010 02:12:26 PM
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- 15/02/2010 02:12:26 PM
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Re:
- 15/02/2010 10:40:39 PM
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- 15/02/2010 10:40:39 PM
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Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main
- 16/02/2010 01:32:45 AM
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Re: Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main
- 16/02/2010 07:09:52 AM
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Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour
- 15/02/2010 03:48:51 PM
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Sidious' problem in a nutshell.
- 15/02/2010 11:27:12 AM
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Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene
- 14/02/2010 07:56:23 PM
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Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene
- 14/02/2010 08:55:58 PM
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I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then
- 14/02/2010 08:59:26 PM
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Re: I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then
- 14/02/2010 09:24:23 PM
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I don't think so
- 14/02/2010 09:30:41 PM
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Re: I don't think so
- 15/02/2010 03:45:52 PM
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That's pretty much how I see it too
- 15/02/2010 05:54:14 PM
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I understood little sister to be a mild insult, Moiraine being so young and weak in the OP *NM*
- 16/02/2010 08:25:55 PM
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maybe a touch patronizing? *NM*
- 17/02/2010 12:51:25 PM
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Appears to be, but his thought process implies it's not as simple as him merely looking down on her. *NM*
- 17/02/2010 05:07:19 PM
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand
- 14/02/2010 08:05:40 PM
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Re: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand
- 14/02/2010 11:55:40 PM
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Cadsuane needs to spank her.
- 15/02/2010 01:31:49 AM
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yeah, that's worked so well on her in the past
- 15/02/2010 01:48:05 AM
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It would be a very amusing moment.
- 15/02/2010 03:01:37 AM
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IMO it would merely be a hypocritical moment of massive proportions
- 15/02/2010 04:45:27 AM
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and a massive failure
- 15/02/2010 06:57:18 AM
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What Egwene needs is to be shown that her actions could harm the tower.
- 15/02/2010 08:46:30 AM
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If you hate arrogance, you must hate all the main characters in the series
- 15/02/2010 03:21:48 PM
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Everyone else is shown to be a bit small minded. Egwene is implied to be Strong And Wise
- 15/02/2010 09:23:47 PM
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When has she ever actually done that? Rand thinks she will, but so far she's done nothing like it!
- 16/02/2010 02:08:23 AM
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I meant that EVERYONE is bargaining, posturing, etc.
- 16/02/2010 02:54:29 AM
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Well miscommunication is one of the major themes of the series
- 16/02/2010 01:17:25 PM
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the most idiotic theme IMO
- 16/02/2010 03:27:26 PM
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I don't know if the theme itself is idoitic, but I would totally agree that it's gone nowhere!
- 17/02/2010 03:16:30 AM
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Re: Everyone else is shown to be a bit small minded. Egwene is implied to be Strong And Wise
- 18/02/2010 01:19:00 AM
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No, Cannoli has the right of it here.
- 16/02/2010 06:22:39 PM
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Well, all those beatings were in private
- 16/02/2010 07:54:00 PM
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That was the point of the scene in front of the Sitters during the banquet. *NM*
- 23/02/2010 06:58:50 PM
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Oh the one where Elaida tried to have her way with Egwene while the Sitters looked away?
*NM*
- 23/02/2010 10:12:04 PM
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*NM*
- 23/02/2010 10:12:04 PM
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Yes. Elaida wanted Egwene to be cowed in front of her into obedience, which would erode her support
- 23/02/2010 10:18:03 PM
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