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Re: This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 22/02/2010 10:57:27 PM
Egwene's only dilemma regarding power is how much of it she can get and how fast. She never has a moment where she considers that another might be more suitable (for example, the Gray that organised the Tower during the attack, rather than running off leading novices into danger).


I don't really get how you can say this since most of her character arc was thinking that she was needed in her position because there were no suitable leaders in the White Tower, so whereas before she was trying to watch her back while being set up by the Rebels, by the end of her trials and tribulations in the Tower, she really did believe that if necessary, she would gladly be Stilled and executed if it meant the Tower could have a better leader than she. It's this belief that enabled her to transcend her increasingly harsh punishments.
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God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 07:02:20 AM 2832 Views
My sentiments exactly, though I think I'm a little more hopeful than you are. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 07:58:01 AM 1352 Views
Re: My sentiments exactly, though I think I'm a little more hopeful than you are. orius - 14/02/2010 09:26:47 AM 1165 Views
Just like Elayne treated him so well when she kicked him out of Andor? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:35:32 PM 992 Views
What? We are no longer allowed to make predictions of the coming books unless they're pro-Egwene? Lordling - 14/02/2010 02:22:10 PM 1107 Views
a theory vs. mindlessly attacking a character because you don't like them? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 07:00:27 PM 1093 Views
It IS kind of ridiculous... but how do YOU think a meeting will go? beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 07:20:08 PM 1098 Views
We all do that darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:09:51 PM 1156 Views
Is Egwene going to do what Elayne did when she met Rand after tearing down his banners? Cannoli - 15/02/2010 11:25:27 AM 1273 Views
You just KNOW that rather than compliment all the good he's done.... Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 03:06:09 PM 949 Views
Personally, I'm rooting for Elaida's Foretelling to be fake Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 06:56:41 PM 1244 Views
I thought she DID say "This I Foretell?" beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 07:24:19 PM 1093 Views
Yes she did. Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 07:34:43 PM 1288 Views
No way these are fake... she's not BA and she she says she's having a Foretelling darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:24:29 PM 1175 Views
Good point. And the "rent in fire and blood" part is almost certain as well. Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 05:13:29 PM 883 Views
Take a sedative Sidious - 14/02/2010 07:52:32 PM 1128 Views
somethings we can agree on! darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:12:05 PM 1143 Views
None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 09:01:35 PM 1097 Views
Right cause Nynaeve is always going around telling people how much Mat's changed darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 09:27:02 PM 1101 Views
If you'll recall what Mat did 5 minutes after... beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 11:06:41 PM 1129 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 11:34:49 PM 1018 Views
Re: Not really Gerbeaud - 15/02/2010 03:32:06 PM 1045 Views
better than Nynaeve who just lies to herself in order to justify her actions! darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 05:53:17 PM 1144 Views
This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 06:09:46 PM 1092 Views
actually it's about all of the main characters darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 06:13:27 PM 1054 Views
Re: actually it's about all of the main characters Gerbeaud - 15/02/2010 06:39:25 PM 1141 Views
Well said. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 07:20:47 PM 1161 Views
Re: Well said. Gerbeaud - 15/02/2010 07:43:08 PM 1010 Views
yet even Siuan seems to understand and accept Egwene's response ... odd that you can hold her to darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:55:35 AM 936 Views
Oh, so Elaida's treatment of Sheremin is ok because Sheremin accepted it? Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 06:49:53 AM 1079 Views
how is that a good comparrison? darius_sedai - 18/02/2010 12:27:58 AM 941 Views
Re: how is that a good comparrison? Lord Haart - 18/02/2010 03:30:21 AM 1473 Views
watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:51:09 AM 1130 Views
Re: watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 07:04:08 AM 1103 Views
Alright enough. Will you read the books already? fionwe1987 - 16/02/2010 08:03:39 AM 1152 Views
Fair points, & I somehow forgot that paragraph. Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 05:34:12 PM 1069 Views
You've forgotten a lot of paragraphs. fionwe1987 - 16/02/2010 07:58:32 PM 1194 Views
The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:34:30 AM 933 Views
Re: The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 07:08:13 AM 1048 Views
I'm going to agee with fionwe darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:07:37 PM 998 Views
Same old same old Sidious - 16/02/2010 02:01:12 PM 1031 Views
that B*TCH! *NM* darius_sedai - 17/02/2010 03:10:30 AM 709 Views
Re: Same old same old orius - 17/02/2010 09:32:03 AM 1145 Views
Yes, but Egwene's is pride - Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 07:04:25 PM 1064 Views
I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 08:52:54 PM 1015 Views
Re: I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 10:39:25 PM 1043 Views
I feel Galad could be up there, but we see so little of him beetnemesis - 16/02/2010 12:28:44 AM 1045 Views
are you being serious? darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 1028 Views
Re: are you being serious? Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 06:55:16 AM 1112 Views
Oh, I don't think so. beetnemesis - 16/02/2010 09:12:57 AM 994 Views
Re: This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/02/2010 10:57:27 PM 1110 Views
Re: None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping orius - 15/02/2010 05:08:49 AM 1070 Views
It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour Sidious - 15/02/2010 06:53:30 AM 1011 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 08:41:02 AM 1264 Views
this is hilarious darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 12:45:22 PM 1026 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour Sidious - 15/02/2010 03:31:26 PM 1139 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour Cannoli - 15/02/2010 11:57:24 AM 1282 Views
Who says Egwene didn't have a destiny? *NM* darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 12:46:10 PM 629 Views
Me. And I'm way smarter than you. Cannoli - 15/02/2010 01:04:48 PM 1098 Views
darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 02:12:26 PM 1165 Views
Re: Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 10:40:39 PM 1045 Views
Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:32:45 AM 976 Views
Re: Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 07:09:52 AM 1067 Views
You need a re-read my friend darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:14:22 PM 1027 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour Sidious - 15/02/2010 03:48:51 PM 1185 Views
Sidious' problem in a nutshell. Cannoli - 15/02/2010 11:27:12 AM 1134 Views
Re: Sidious' problem in a nutshell. Sidious - 15/02/2010 03:14:55 PM 1076 Views
I've never understood the fascination with Lanfear darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 05:52:27 PM 1116 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene Gerbeaud - 14/02/2010 07:56:23 PM 1056 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene BlackAdder - 14/02/2010 08:55:58 PM 983 Views
I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:59:26 PM 1129 Views
Re: I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then BlackAdder - 14/02/2010 09:24:23 PM 979 Views
I don't think so darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 09:30:41 PM 1010 Views
Re: I don't think so Gerbeaud - 15/02/2010 03:45:52 PM 1090 Views
That's pretty much how I see it too darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 05:54:14 PM 1008 Views
I understood little sister to be a mild insult, Moiraine being so young and weak in the OP *NM* Lordling - 16/02/2010 08:25:55 PM 701 Views
maybe a touch patronizing? *NM* darius_sedai - 17/02/2010 12:51:25 PM 579 Views
Appears to be, but his thought process implies it's not as simple as him merely looking down on her. *NM* Lord Haart - 17/02/2010 05:07:19 PM 535 Views
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand Yondaime - 14/02/2010 08:05:40 PM 1240 Views
Re: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand lilltempest - 14/02/2010 11:55:40 PM 1125 Views
Cadsuane needs to spank her. Great Lord of Chaos - 15/02/2010 01:31:49 AM 1127 Views
yeah, that's worked so well on her in the past darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 01:48:05 AM 1028 Views
It would be a very amusing moment. Great Lord of Chaos - 15/02/2010 03:01:37 AM 996 Views
IMO it would merely be a hypocritical moment of massive proportions darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 04:45:27 AM 978 Views
and a massive failure Sidious - 15/02/2010 06:57:18 AM 1121 Views
What Egwene needs is to be shown that her actions could harm the tower. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 08:46:30 AM 887 Views
Actually that role is being played by Covril at the Stump *NM* darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 02:13:42 PM 657 Views
If you hate arrogance, you must hate all the main characters in the series Sidious - 15/02/2010 03:21:48 PM 941 Views
But that's the point Cannoli - 15/02/2010 03:26:03 PM 1025 Views
Not quite. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 07:11:56 PM 1041 Views
Everyone else is shown to be a bit small minded. Egwene is implied to be Strong And Wise beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 09:23:47 PM 976 Views
When has she ever actually done that? Rand thinks she will, but so far she's done nothing like it! darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 02:08:23 AM 1061 Views
I meant that EVERYONE is bargaining, posturing, etc. beetnemesis - 16/02/2010 02:54:29 AM 974 Views
Well miscommunication is one of the major themes of the series darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:17:25 PM 1004 Views
the most idiotic theme IMO Sidious - 16/02/2010 03:27:26 PM 1066 Views
I don't know if the theme itself is idoitic, but I would totally agree that it's gone nowhere! darius_sedai - 17/02/2010 03:16:30 AM 990 Views
Re: Everyone else is shown to be a bit small minded. Egwene is implied to be Strong And Wise Gerbeaud - 18/02/2010 01:19:00 AM 1048 Views
Actually, you can't compare the two. Cannoli - 15/02/2010 12:04:19 PM 1092 Views
No, Cannoli has the right of it here. lilltempest - 16/02/2010 06:22:39 PM 1115 Views
Re: No, Cannoli has the right of it here. Lordling - 16/02/2010 06:51:28 PM 1162 Views
Well, all those beatings were in private BlackAdder - 16/02/2010 07:54:00 PM 1039 Views
That was the point of the scene in front of the Sitters during the banquet. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 23/02/2010 06:58:50 PM 654 Views
Oh the one where Elaida tried to have her way with Egwene while the Sitters looked away? *NM* BlackAdder - 23/02/2010 10:12:04 PM 676 Views
Yes. Elaida wanted Egwene to be cowed in front of her into obedience, which would erode her support RugbyPlayingAshaman - 23/02/2010 10:18:03 PM 1084 Views
I actually think it will go the opposite way. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 03:44:19 PM 1051 Views
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