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watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 16/02/2010 01:51:09 AM
Even Elayne and Nynaeve, who originally appeared to be more haughty than Egwene, have thanked Mat by now.

As we see with Rand, power does sometimes require that people be seen to respect you and obey your without question PUBLICLY, but Egwene doesn't seem to understand that privately she can trust people, treat them as equals (or betters), or actually give THEM some respect.

Most recently, she gets whiny about Siuan and Gawyn saving her life in the Tower, even after it is clear that there was no effect on the outcome anyway. This is just not likeable, nor easily forgivable. I mean, come on, the girl is taking Siuan's (rightful!) place as Amyrlin, and she beats on Siuan, someone who gave up all desire for personal glory and who has dedicated her life to Egwene, for almost certainly saving her life? If she really thinks that she is that important to the Tower, then she should surely understand that her life needs to be kept safe, but she doesn't even consider this.


Where exactly has Egwene had the opportunity to do the same?

Oh wait, right here... unlike Elayne and Nynaeve she hasn't been shamed into it!

She had every right to be pissed at Siuan and Gawyn for "coming to her rescue" ... they deliberately disobeyed a direct order. Your assessment of Siuan is laughable at best! "gave up all desire for personal glory?" ... give it a rest, she single handedly extended the rebellion by spreading lies simply to get back at Elaida for what had happened!

I suggest a re-read to you.

Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 07:02:20 AM 2715 Views
Just like Elayne treated him so well when she kicked him out of Andor? - 14/02/2010 01:35:32 PM 878 Views
It IS kind of ridiculous... but how do YOU think a meeting will go? - 14/02/2010 07:20:08 PM 972 Views
We all do that - 14/02/2010 08:09:51 PM 1031 Views
You just KNOW that rather than compliment all the good he's done.... - 14/02/2010 03:06:09 PM 830 Views
Personally, I'm rooting for Elaida's Foretelling to be fake - 14/02/2010 06:56:41 PM 1128 Views
I thought she DID say "This I Foretell?" - 14/02/2010 07:24:19 PM 958 Views
Yes she did. - 14/02/2010 07:34:43 PM 1167 Views
Take a sedative - 14/02/2010 07:52:32 PM 1006 Views
somethings we can agree on! - 14/02/2010 08:12:05 PM 988 Views
None of the Emond's Fielders suck up to him. There's difference between hostile and 1-upping - 14/02/2010 09:01:35 PM 976 Views
Right cause Nynaeve is always going around telling people how much Mat's changed - 14/02/2010 09:27:02 PM 986 Views
If you'll recall what Mat did 5 minutes after... - 14/02/2010 11:06:41 PM 1008 Views
Not really - 14/02/2010 11:34:49 PM 900 Views
Re: Not really - 15/02/2010 03:32:06 PM 908 Views
better than Nynaeve who just lies to herself in order to justify her actions! - 15/02/2010 05:53:17 PM 1020 Views
This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. - 15/02/2010 06:09:46 PM 967 Views
actually it's about all of the main characters - 15/02/2010 06:13:27 PM 923 Views
Re: actually it's about all of the main characters - 15/02/2010 06:39:25 PM 1019 Views
Well said. - 15/02/2010 07:20:47 PM 1039 Views
Re: Well said. - 15/02/2010 07:43:08 PM 869 Views
yet even Siuan seems to understand and accept Egwene's response ... odd that you can hold her to - 16/02/2010 01:55:35 AM 805 Views
Oh, so Elaida's treatment of Sheremin is ok because Sheremin accepted it? - 16/02/2010 06:49:53 AM 966 Views
how is that a good comparrison? - 18/02/2010 12:27:58 AM 819 Views
Re: how is that a good comparrison? - 18/02/2010 03:30:21 AM 1305 Views
watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon - 16/02/2010 01:51:09 AM 1007 Views
Re: watch out that you don't fall when you jump on a bandwagon - 16/02/2010 07:04:08 AM 977 Views
Alright enough. Will you read the books already? - 16/02/2010 08:03:39 AM 1037 Views
Fair points, & I somehow forgot that paragraph. - 16/02/2010 05:34:12 PM 953 Views
You've forgotten a lot of paragraphs. - 16/02/2010 07:58:32 PM 1055 Views
The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason - 16/02/2010 01:34:30 AM 814 Views
Re: The point is people hold Egwene to a different standard for some reason - 16/02/2010 07:08:13 AM 917 Views
I'm going to agee with fionwe - 16/02/2010 01:07:37 PM 876 Views
Same old same old - 16/02/2010 02:01:12 PM 901 Views
that B*TCH! *NM* - 17/02/2010 03:10:30 AM 660 Views
Re: Same old same old - 17/02/2010 09:32:03 AM 1024 Views
Yes, but Egwene's is pride - - 15/02/2010 07:04:25 PM 923 Views
I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none - 15/02/2010 08:52:54 PM 907 Views
Re: I think Nyn has had the best character development, bar none - 15/02/2010 10:39:25 PM 928 Views
I feel Galad could be up there, but we see so little of him - 16/02/2010 12:28:44 AM 928 Views
are you being serious? - 16/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 888 Views
Re: are you being serious? - 16/02/2010 06:55:16 AM 989 Views
Oh, I don't think so. - 16/02/2010 09:12:57 AM 873 Views
Re: This is about Egwene, not Nynaeve. - 22/02/2010 10:57:27 PM 975 Views
It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 06:53:30 AM 883 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 08:41:02 AM 1136 Views
this is hilarious - 15/02/2010 12:45:22 PM 897 Views
Re: It amazes me that you use Rand as the gold standard for good behaviour - 15/02/2010 11:57:24 AM 1159 Views
Who says Egwene didn't have a destiny? *NM* - 15/02/2010 12:46:10 PM 563 Views
Me. And I'm way smarter than you. - 15/02/2010 01:04:48 PM 971 Views
- 15/02/2010 02:12:26 PM 1030 Views
Re: - 15/02/2010 10:40:39 PM 899 Views
Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main - 16/02/2010 01:32:45 AM 859 Views
Re: Min's viewing of the Darkness v. fireflies very obviously shows that all the main - 16/02/2010 07:09:52 AM 929 Views
You need a re-read my friend - 16/02/2010 01:14:22 PM 918 Views
Sidious' problem in a nutshell. - 15/02/2010 11:27:12 AM 1008 Views
Re: Sidious' problem in a nutshell. - 15/02/2010 03:14:55 PM 962 Views
I've never understood the fascination with Lanfear - 15/02/2010 05:52:27 PM 992 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 07:56:23 PM 927 Views
Re: God I am so pissed off at Future Egwene - 14/02/2010 08:55:58 PM 869 Views
I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then - 14/02/2010 08:59:26 PM 992 Views
Re: I'd venture the guess that it's what the called the Novices back then - 14/02/2010 09:24:23 PM 836 Views
I don't think so - 14/02/2010 09:30:41 PM 858 Views
Re: I don't think so - 15/02/2010 03:45:52 PM 956 Views
That's pretty much how I see it too - 15/02/2010 05:54:14 PM 882 Views
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand - 14/02/2010 08:05:40 PM 1101 Views
Re: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't be flattering for Rand - 14/02/2010 11:55:40 PM 999 Views
Cadsuane needs to spank her. - 15/02/2010 01:31:49 AM 984 Views
yeah, that's worked so well on her in the past - 15/02/2010 01:48:05 AM 900 Views
It would be a very amusing moment. - 15/02/2010 03:01:37 AM 864 Views
IMO it would merely be a hypocritical moment of massive proportions - 15/02/2010 04:45:27 AM 854 Views
and a massive failure - 15/02/2010 06:57:18 AM 995 Views
What Egwene needs is to be shown that her actions could harm the tower. - 15/02/2010 08:46:30 AM 778 Views
Actually that role is being played by Covril at the Stump *NM* - 15/02/2010 02:13:42 PM 601 Views
If you hate arrogance, you must hate all the main characters in the series - 15/02/2010 03:21:48 PM 819 Views
But that's the point - 15/02/2010 03:26:03 PM 895 Views
Not quite. - 15/02/2010 07:11:56 PM 908 Views
Actually, you can't compare the two. - 15/02/2010 12:04:19 PM 976 Views
No, Cannoli has the right of it here. - 16/02/2010 06:22:39 PM 996 Views
Re: No, Cannoli has the right of it here. - 16/02/2010 06:51:28 PM 1002 Views
I actually think it will go the opposite way. - 16/02/2010 03:44:19 PM 932 Views

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