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Why was Kerb highly likely to be delved? Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 16/02/2010 06:42:37 AM
And as for Ramshalan, why would it even matter? I'm pretty certain that any level of Compulsion could be detected by delving, but few characters are delved. I mean Elza is a far more likely target for suspicion but even she isn't put under suspicion. So I think it's more likely that Graendal was trying to play games with Rand and instead fell for a larger ploy.

As for Kerb, I think that it's far more likely that he was simply following his programming in a way that Graendal could not anticipate. Its a lot like programming software - you can write the most complex software in the world, and it can STILL display emergent behaviours and lead to unintended consequences.
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Additional clues that something doesn't quite add up in Graendal's death darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 03:34:43 PM 2059 Views
I brought all this up before.. fionwe1987 - 13/02/2010 04:52:39 PM 944 Views
Glad it's been brought up before darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 04:57:11 PM 886 Views
Assuming it's not her hideout . . . Palatine - 13/02/2010 05:47:22 PM 923 Views
I don't see problems Skeeve the Great - 13/02/2010 06:03:41 PM 953 Views
Also, Rand had to do some heavy research with the head librarian beetnemesis - 13/02/2010 07:15:27 PM 921 Views
no, Rand just sent a few scouts darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:56:33 PM 802 Views
"Well known" and "largely forgotten" are about as opposite as you can get! darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:44:39 PM 921 Views
I don't think so. Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 04:28:04 PM 873 Views
so now she's been there for the last 50 years? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:41:43 PM 781 Views
Re: so now she's been there for the last 50 years? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 06:29:32 PM 816 Views
you mean the scouts he sent? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:52:59 PM 840 Views
He used scouts to find the place? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 07:07:16 PM 781 Views
probably, but that doesn't make a difference. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:33:35 PM 823 Views
Re: probably, but that doesn't make a difference. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 08:10:47 AM 846 Views
I agree - those are basically antonyms RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 06:35:31 PM 825 Views
Like rotary phones, Milli Vanilli and the Macarena? JasonD - 23/02/2010 12:22:47 AM 750 Views
More... Kieran - 13/02/2010 07:37:45 PM 862 Views
Or it could be due to two different authors writing the story and nothing else. *NM* everynametaken - 14/02/2010 12:22:27 AM 376 Views
seems like pretty big differences darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 12:26:42 AM 789 Views
Not really. everynametaken - 15/02/2010 03:29:39 AM 784 Views
it's Maria's job to find these things darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 04:43:33 AM 800 Views
Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 03:45:23 AM 961 Views
Re: Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:08:38 PM 893 Views
Fine, then what if she changed location after Sammael was compromised? Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:46:52 PM 852 Views
Any number of things are possible darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:45:35 PM 805 Views
You don't get it. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:10:33 PM 804 Views
Go re-read it... I said there are discrepancies between what Sammael said and what Rand said darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:54:43 PM 915 Views
There aren't, really. DomA - 14/02/2010 09:56:53 PM 757 Views
so you think a kid who has likely never even seen a map knows the name of a castle darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 10:09:55 PM 874 Views
Two possibilities how Kerb knew the name Voscaia Sedai - 15/02/2010 09:04:14 AM 872 Views
There are infinite possibilities darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 12:48:23 PM 870 Views
Re: There are infinite possibilities Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 05:51:24 PM 849 Views
*sigh back* darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 06:08:28 PM 903 Views
Kerb wasn't planted by anyone. Fanatic-Templar - 15/02/2010 06:41:18 PM 839 Views
She's dead, people need to move on. *NM* Libby - 14/02/2010 07:34:31 AM 423 Views
I acknowledge that it's possible (even likely) that she is dead darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:09:53 PM 826 Views
Graendal is Toast with a capital T. Not possibly dead, not likely dead, 100% gone. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:48:09 PM 814 Views
This from you? HA! darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:44:16 PM 828 Views
Look, Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:02:32 PM 915 Views
seriously I think you are mistaking me for another poster darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:58:47 PM 797 Views
The discrepancies are due to the series being over 12 books long... Libby - 15/02/2010 08:59:24 PM 863 Views
I'm glad... Jeordam - 15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM 849 Views
I'm with you on her probably being dead only because it's so close to the end *NM* darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:30:42 AM 386 Views
Why was Kerb highly likely to be delved? Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 06:42:37 AM 902 Views
I think that I have my names mixed up.... Jeordam - 16/02/2010 04:17:46 PM 774 Views
Re: I think that I have my names mixed up.... Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 05:43:51 PM 1062 Views
The quote is in my original post! darius_sedai - 23/02/2010 12:30:14 PM 775 Views
Yes; but those pieces of evidence basically separate the 2 schools of thought on her "death scene" *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 03:59:41 PM 410 Views
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