but also can work it so subtle that no one would notice.
~Jeordam
~Jeordam
Do you have any quotes or examples that point to her Compulsion being undetectable via Delving?
My impression was that by "subtle", it was meant that the behaviours of her victims are still highly functional and seem perfectly normal. Ramshalan fits this: despite the complex weaves place upon him, he still retained full cognitive abilities, and appeared to be perfectly normal until he was Delved. Compare this to Kerb, or to Graendal's 'pets'.
I must add here that Nynaeve is one of the greatest Healers, so chances are that even if Delving wasn't a surefire way to detect Compulsion, she would be pretty good at it. So good, in fact, that the only way to avoid detection would be to not use Compulsion at all. Even if the Compulsion was very minor and not readily apparent, Rand would have had Nynaeve search incredibly thoroughly for it. So trying to avoid Delving with a subtle weave was pointless anyway. This means that Graendal would either have instantly run, or would have done what she presumably did: use a Compulsion which would be difficult to detect based upon behaviour, and see if she could use Ramshalan to kill Min or something like that.
Additional clues that something doesn't quite add up in Graendal's death
- 13/02/2010 03:34:43 PM
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I don't see problems
- 13/02/2010 06:03:41 PM
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"Well known" and "largely forgotten" are about as opposite as you can get!
- 13/02/2010 11:44:39 PM
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I don't think so.
- 14/02/2010 04:28:04 PM
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so now she's been there for the last 50 years?
- 14/02/2010 05:41:43 PM
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Re: so now she's been there for the last 50 years?
- 14/02/2010 06:29:32 PM
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you mean the scouts he sent?
- 14/02/2010 06:52:59 PM
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He used scouts to find the place?
- 14/02/2010 07:07:16 PM
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- 14/02/2010 07:07:16 PM
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Or it could be due to two different authors writing the story and nothing else. *NM*
- 14/02/2010 12:22:27 AM
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seems like pretty big differences
- 14/02/2010 12:26:42 AM
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Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael.
- 14/02/2010 03:45:23 AM
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Re: Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael.
- 14/02/2010 01:08:38 PM
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Fine, then what if she changed location after Sammael was compromised?
- 14/02/2010 04:46:52 PM
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Any number of things are possible
- 14/02/2010 05:45:35 PM
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You don't get it.
- 14/02/2010 06:10:33 PM
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Go re-read it... I said there are discrepancies between what Sammael said and what Rand said
- 14/02/2010 06:54:43 PM
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There aren't, really.
- 14/02/2010 09:56:53 PM
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so you think a kid who has likely never even seen a map knows the name of a castle
- 14/02/2010 10:09:55 PM
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Two possibilities how Kerb knew the name
- 15/02/2010 09:04:14 AM
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There are infinite possibilities
- 15/02/2010 12:48:23 PM
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She's dead, people need to move on. *NM*
- 14/02/2010 07:34:31 AM
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I acknowledge that it's possible (even likely) that she is dead
- 14/02/2010 01:09:53 PM
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Graendal is Toast with a capital T. Not possibly dead, not likely dead, 100% gone.
- 14/02/2010 04:48:09 PM
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The discrepancies are due to the series being over 12 books long...
- 15/02/2010 08:59:24 PM
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I'm glad...
- 15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM
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I'm with you on her probably being dead only because it's so close to the end *NM*
- 16/02/2010 01:30:42 AM
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Why was Kerb highly likely to be delved?
- 16/02/2010 06:42:37 AM
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I think that I have my names mixed up....
- 16/02/2010 04:17:46 PM
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Re: I think that I have my names mixed up....
- 16/02/2010 05:43:51 PM
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Yes; but those pieces of evidence basically separate the 2 schools of thought on her "death scene" *NM*
- 16/02/2010 03:59:41 PM
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