Re: Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael.
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 14/02/2010 01:08:38 PM
She would never have shown him her real hideout. The "palace" clearly isn't Natrin's Barrow, but that does NOT indicate that she wasn't at Natrin's Barrow in any way. The other palace was just a ruse to fool Sammael (and perhaps Ituralde as well).
Plus your point about Compulsion actually verifies Graendal's presence - who else could weave such complex Compulsion on Ramshalan? It may not have been subtle but it was clearly complex enough to shock Nynaeve.
Plus your point about Compulsion actually verifies Graendal's presence - who else could weave such complex Compulsion on Ramshalan? It may not have been subtle but it was clearly complex enough to shock Nynaeve.
I doubt that's really likely. He swung in for visits a little too often for her to have been able to pull it off, not to mention her own thoughts when here match the description of the palace Sammael visted:
ACoS
Spears
She opened a gateway to her palace in Arad Doman, to the long columned room where she could see her pets frolicking in the pool.
As for the Compulsion, note that it's different than the Compulsion on Kerb. Who's to say one of her many slaves isn't a Channeler that she taught to impersonate her?
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Additional clues that something doesn't quite add up in Graendal's death
13/02/2010 03:34:43 PM
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I don't see problems
13/02/2010 06:03:41 PM
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"Well known" and "largely forgotten" are about as opposite as you can get!
13/02/2010 11:44:39 PM
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I don't think so.
14/02/2010 04:28:04 PM
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so now she's been there for the last 50 years?
14/02/2010 05:41:43 PM
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Re: so now she's been there for the last 50 years?
14/02/2010 06:29:32 PM
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you mean the scouts he sent?
14/02/2010 06:52:59 PM
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He used scouts to find the place?
14/02/2010 07:07:16 PM
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Or it could be due to two different authors writing the story and nothing else. *NM*
14/02/2010 12:22:27 AM
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seems like pretty big differences
14/02/2010 12:26:42 AM
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Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael.
14/02/2010 03:45:23 AM
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Re: Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael.
14/02/2010 01:08:38 PM
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Fine, then what if she changed location after Sammael was compromised?
14/02/2010 04:46:52 PM
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Any number of things are possible
14/02/2010 05:45:35 PM
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You don't get it.
14/02/2010 06:10:33 PM
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Go re-read it... I said there are discrepancies between what Sammael said and what Rand said
14/02/2010 06:54:43 PM
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There aren't, really.
14/02/2010 09:56:53 PM
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so you think a kid who has likely never even seen a map knows the name of a castle
14/02/2010 10:09:55 PM
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Two possibilities how Kerb knew the name
15/02/2010 09:04:14 AM
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There are infinite possibilities
15/02/2010 12:48:23 PM
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She's dead, people need to move on. *NM*
14/02/2010 07:34:31 AM
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I acknowledge that it's possible (even likely) that she is dead
14/02/2010 01:09:53 PM
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Graendal is Toast with a capital T. Not possibly dead, not likely dead, 100% gone.
14/02/2010 04:48:09 PM
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The discrepancies are due to the series being over 12 books long...
15/02/2010 08:59:24 PM
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I'm glad...
15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM
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I'm with you on her probably being dead only because it's so close to the end *NM*
16/02/2010 01:30:42 AM
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Why was Kerb highly likely to be delved?
16/02/2010 06:42:37 AM
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I think that I have my names mixed up....
16/02/2010 04:17:46 PM
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Yes; but those pieces of evidence basically separate the 2 schools of thought on her "death scene" *NM*
16/02/2010 03:59:41 PM
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