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I'm glad... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM
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She used Compulsion so often like a hammer that one might forget that she could wield the weaker forms of it with great delicacy, twisting a mind’s path so subtly that even the closest examination might miss every trace of her.

That you brought this quote up. It just goes to show that Graendal could wield both the hammer and the scalpel as she wanted. One then wonders why she would lay the (obvious) Compulsion Smack Down on someone who is highly likely to be delved.

And just so everyone can read it again...I think that Graendal is dead for the simple reason that the end of the series is 2 books away. If this was earlier, I wouldn't trust this off screen death farther than I could pick up and toss Bela.

~Jeordam

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Additional clues that something doesn't quite add up in Graendal's death darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 03:34:43 PM 2153 Views
I brought all this up before.. fionwe1987 - 13/02/2010 04:52:39 PM 1045 Views
Glad it's been brought up before darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 04:57:11 PM 967 Views
Assuming it's not her hideout . . . Palatine - 13/02/2010 05:47:22 PM 1027 Views
I don't see problems Skeeve the Great - 13/02/2010 06:03:41 PM 1030 Views
Also, Rand had to do some heavy research with the head librarian beetnemesis - 13/02/2010 07:15:27 PM 1005 Views
no, Rand just sent a few scouts darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:56:33 PM 879 Views
"Well known" and "largely forgotten" are about as opposite as you can get! darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:44:39 PM 1013 Views
I don't think so. Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 04:28:04 PM 963 Views
so now she's been there for the last 50 years? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:41:43 PM 866 Views
Re: so now she's been there for the last 50 years? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 06:29:32 PM 905 Views
you mean the scouts he sent? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:52:59 PM 969 Views
He used scouts to find the place? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 07:07:16 PM 852 Views
probably, but that doesn't make a difference. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:33:35 PM 932 Views
Re: probably, but that doesn't make a difference. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 08:10:47 AM 964 Views
I agree - those are basically antonyms RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 06:35:31 PM 951 Views
Like rotary phones, Milli Vanilli and the Macarena? JasonD - 23/02/2010 12:22:47 AM 824 Views
More... Kieran - 13/02/2010 07:37:45 PM 981 Views
Or it could be due to two different authors writing the story and nothing else. *NM* everynametaken - 14/02/2010 12:22:27 AM 432 Views
seems like pretty big differences darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 12:26:42 AM 857 Views
Not really. everynametaken - 15/02/2010 03:29:39 AM 866 Views
it's Maria's job to find these things darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 04:43:33 AM 876 Views
Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 03:45:23 AM 1056 Views
Re: Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:08:38 PM 987 Views
Fine, then what if she changed location after Sammael was compromised? Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:46:52 PM 937 Views
Any number of things are possible darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:45:35 PM 884 Views
You don't get it. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:10:33 PM 904 Views
Go re-read it... I said there are discrepancies between what Sammael said and what Rand said darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:54:43 PM 1005 Views
There aren't, really. DomA - 14/02/2010 09:56:53 PM 869 Views
so you think a kid who has likely never even seen a map knows the name of a castle darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 10:09:55 PM 977 Views
Two possibilities how Kerb knew the name Voscaia Sedai - 15/02/2010 09:04:14 AM 973 Views
There are infinite possibilities darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 12:48:23 PM 938 Views
Re: There are infinite possibilities Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 05:51:24 PM 945 Views
*sigh back* darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 06:08:28 PM 1019 Views
Kerb wasn't planted by anyone. Fanatic-Templar - 15/02/2010 06:41:18 PM 918 Views
She's dead, people need to move on. *NM* Libby - 14/02/2010 07:34:31 AM 496 Views
I acknowledge that it's possible (even likely) that she is dead darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:09:53 PM 911 Views
Graendal is Toast with a capital T. Not possibly dead, not likely dead, 100% gone. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:48:09 PM 895 Views
This from you? HA! darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:44:16 PM 901 Views
Look, Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:02:32 PM 1019 Views
seriously I think you are mistaking me for another poster darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:58:47 PM 870 Views
The discrepancies are due to the series being over 12 books long... Libby - 15/02/2010 08:59:24 PM 989 Views
I'm glad... Jeordam - 15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM 942 Views
I'm with you on her probably being dead only because it's so close to the end *NM* darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:30:42 AM 429 Views
Why was Kerb highly likely to be delved? Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 06:42:37 AM 991 Views
I think that I have my names mixed up.... Jeordam - 16/02/2010 04:17:46 PM 896 Views
Re: I think that I have my names mixed up.... Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 05:43:51 PM 1145 Views
The quote is in my original post! darius_sedai - 23/02/2010 12:30:14 PM 880 Views
Yes; but those pieces of evidence basically separate the 2 schools of thought on her "death scene" *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 03:59:41 PM 481 Views
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