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"Well known" and "largely forgotten" are about as opposite as you can get! darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 13/02/2010 11:44:39 PM
Something to be "well known" and to be "largely forgotten" is not a controversy.

First of all, Sammael observation happen a way before Rand arrives to Arad Doman. During that time, Graendal easily Compelled large half of all nobels in Arad Doman. Which is pretty much what Sammael predicted - "every Domani who visited here left believing that this land had been handed down in her family since the Breaking".

Second, the nature of "well known" and "largely forgotten" are not that incompatible. The place may be very well known, as in someone says the name and you immideately recognize the name and point it. And the same name can be largely forgotten, as in someone is asked to say the hideout of Forsaken and the "well known" place does not come up in the list at all.


Graendal can only compel those who come to her. Seems likely that anyone they tell their story to about a "well known" estate that is suddenly changed hands would raise a few eyebrows. It would be like someone saying they had spoken to the President of the USA and telling you all about how it was John McCain.
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Additional clues that something doesn't quite add up in Graendal's death darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 03:34:43 PM 2036 Views
I brought all this up before.. fionwe1987 - 13/02/2010 04:52:39 PM 919 Views
Glad it's been brought up before darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 04:57:11 PM 869 Views
Assuming it's not her hideout . . . Palatine - 13/02/2010 05:47:22 PM 897 Views
I don't see problems Skeeve the Great - 13/02/2010 06:03:41 PM 929 Views
Also, Rand had to do some heavy research with the head librarian beetnemesis - 13/02/2010 07:15:27 PM 894 Views
no, Rand just sent a few scouts darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:56:33 PM 781 Views
"Well known" and "largely forgotten" are about as opposite as you can get! darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:44:39 PM 894 Views
I don't think so. Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 04:28:04 PM 852 Views
so now she's been there for the last 50 years? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:41:43 PM 750 Views
Re: so now she's been there for the last 50 years? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 06:29:32 PM 786 Views
you mean the scouts he sent? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:52:59 PM 817 Views
He used scouts to find the place? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 07:07:16 PM 757 Views
probably, but that doesn't make a difference. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:33:35 PM 795 Views
Re: probably, but that doesn't make a difference. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 08:10:47 AM 817 Views
I agree - those are basically antonyms RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 06:35:31 PM 796 Views
Like rotary phones, Milli Vanilli and the Macarena? JasonD - 23/02/2010 12:22:47 AM 728 Views
More... Kieran - 13/02/2010 07:37:45 PM 835 Views
Or it could be due to two different authors writing the story and nothing else. *NM* everynametaken - 14/02/2010 12:22:27 AM 364 Views
seems like pretty big differences darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 12:26:42 AM 769 Views
Not really. everynametaken - 15/02/2010 03:29:39 AM 756 Views
it's Maria's job to find these things darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 04:43:33 AM 771 Views
Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 03:45:23 AM 933 Views
Re: Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:08:38 PM 863 Views
Fine, then what if she changed location after Sammael was compromised? Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:46:52 PM 830 Views
Any number of things are possible darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:45:35 PM 779 Views
You don't get it. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:10:33 PM 780 Views
Go re-read it... I said there are discrepancies between what Sammael said and what Rand said darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:54:43 PM 886 Views
There aren't, really. DomA - 14/02/2010 09:56:53 PM 731 Views
so you think a kid who has likely never even seen a map knows the name of a castle darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 10:09:55 PM 848 Views
Two possibilities how Kerb knew the name Voscaia Sedai - 15/02/2010 09:04:14 AM 845 Views
There are infinite possibilities darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 12:48:23 PM 847 Views
Re: There are infinite possibilities Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 05:51:24 PM 805 Views
*sigh back* darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 06:08:28 PM 874 Views
Kerb wasn't planted by anyone. Fanatic-Templar - 15/02/2010 06:41:18 PM 800 Views
She's dead, people need to move on. *NM* Libby - 14/02/2010 07:34:31 AM 415 Views
I acknowledge that it's possible (even likely) that she is dead darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:09:53 PM 800 Views
Graendal is Toast with a capital T. Not possibly dead, not likely dead, 100% gone. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:48:09 PM 791 Views
This from you? HA! darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:44:16 PM 804 Views
Look, Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:02:32 PM 885 Views
seriously I think you are mistaking me for another poster darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:58:47 PM 782 Views
The discrepancies are due to the series being over 12 books long... Libby - 15/02/2010 08:59:24 PM 836 Views
I'm glad... Jeordam - 15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM 823 Views
I'm with you on her probably being dead only because it's so close to the end *NM* darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:30:42 AM 369 Views
Why was Kerb highly likely to be delved? Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 06:42:37 AM 878 Views
I think that I have my names mixed up.... Jeordam - 16/02/2010 04:17:46 PM 747 Views
Re: I think that I have my names mixed up.... Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 05:43:51 PM 1014 Views
The quote is in my original post! darius_sedai - 23/02/2010 12:30:14 PM 752 Views
Yes; but those pieces of evidence basically separate the 2 schools of thought on her "death scene" *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 03:59:41 PM 397 Views
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