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Definitely. And Egwene is in denial. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 05:53:14 PM
My complaint is that the organization itself is ineffectual. Individual sisters can still sometimes do great things, but they're acting on their own. We STILL don't know if seeking out women who can channel was Verin's sole purpose in coming to the Two Rivers- remember, other than Moiraine and Siuan, she was the only other sister who knew what was going on (as much as anyone did in tSR, anyway). Whatever her intentions were, however, were hers and hers alone- not the Towers, and not Siuan's.


The big challenge for the AS now is how they adjust and learn to accept the new, less lofty place in the scheme of things.


Definitely. It's pretty obvious to me that the WT, in its current incarnation at least, is obsolete. Saidin is cleansed, the Black Tower has been built, the Oath Rod halves your lifecycle, Aiel and Windfinders hold honored places WITHOUT binding themselves, and Tarmon Gai'don is coming.

Whenever Egwene talks about "all women who can channel being linked to the White Tower," or her ridiculous plan involving the Kin, it just reeks of desperation and denial.

Most people hate Aes Sedai, some for good reason, others for simple superstition. But even those who don't hate them are incredibly suspicious of them. Why would anyone want an advisor like that?
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You know... it feels like the Aes Sedai are pretty superflouous - 02/09/2009 09:48:19 PM 1472 Views
Y'know, the paralells betwen the Aes Sedai in the White Tower... - 02/09/2009 10:46:29 PM 998 Views
Well said. Hadn't really thought of it that way before *NM* - 03/09/2009 12:01:30 AM 581 Views
And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. - 03/09/2009 03:37:14 AM 1019 Views
Re: And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. - 03/09/2009 05:46:13 AM 991 Views
Really? - 03/09/2009 05:52:38 AM 954 Views
Re: Really? - 03/09/2009 06:03:13 AM 919 Views
So lets add a few more - 03/09/2009 11:42:48 AM 928 Views
most of these are accounted for above - 03/09/2009 02:18:01 PM 1001 Views
But who did the work? - 03/09/2009 05:37:00 PM 825 Views
While these are good, none of it is because of the White Tower - 03/09/2009 05:43:56 PM 843 Views
So if Elaida didn't order it, it doesn't count? - 03/09/2009 07:29:20 PM 871 Views
Actually I think that's his point - 04/09/2009 01:40:37 PM 972 Views
Spot-on - 04/09/2009 08:56:30 PM 789 Views
Re: Actually I think that's his point - 05/09/2009 03:17:25 AM 819 Views
Re: But who did the work? - 04/09/2009 01:32:19 PM 910 Views
Only one point because obviously your mind is made up. - 05/09/2009 06:13:23 AM 925 Views
well, yeah - 05/09/2009 02:33:51 PM 962 Views
In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. - 05/09/2009 03:03:07 PM 865 Views
Re: In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. - 05/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 843 Views
No, fionwe1987 is absolutely right! - 05/09/2009 05:13:39 PM 811 Views
I'm glad the real world disagrees with you - 05/09/2009 05:05:50 PM 860 Views
I'm not convinced that it does - 05/09/2009 05:44:10 PM 949 Views
I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 04:25:22 PM 873 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 09:09:38 PM 908 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 09:23:53 PM 848 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 05/09/2009 09:02:47 AM 1105 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 09:49:58 PM 850 Views
I was talking about the WT specifically, and only during recent years. It's Gotta be the Shadow, - 03/09/2009 05:39:11 PM 869 Views
So what you are really saying is that if you ignore over 2/3rds of the AS the rest aren't doing much - 03/09/2009 06:07:23 PM 822 Views
I'm talking about the organization as a whole - 03/09/2009 10:07:37 PM 886 Views
No you are talking about Elaida - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM 828 Views
You just made our point... - 04/09/2009 12:49:44 AM 895 Views
Well, because most of her actions infringe on that "bubble" - 04/09/2009 09:00:52 PM 806 Views
Not at all... - 04/09/2009 09:23:09 PM 906 Views
To a certain extent - 03/09/2009 11:33:30 AM 1121 Views
Definitely. And Egwene is in denial. - 03/09/2009 05:53:14 PM 885 Views
Some pretty big blanket statements - 03/09/2009 10:24:50 PM 1023 Views
Without the Tower - 03/09/2009 02:05:09 PM 779 Views
Actually, I think Verin is a good metaphor here. - 03/09/2009 07:59:46 PM 830 Views
Agrees with Nossy - 03/09/2009 10:44:06 PM 1134 Views
That's mostly what I was trying to say - 04/09/2009 09:03:52 PM 796 Views
Re: That's mostly what I was trying to say - 05/09/2009 03:33:46 AM 1154 Views

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