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No you are talking about Elaida NaClH2O Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM
All of the things you mentioned are Elaida's actions. Many if not most AS are horrified at many of them. I've already agreed with you that she's a bad ruler. That's why approximately 1/3 of all the AS are actively trying to depose her. So if you are going to say Elaida is superfluous to fighting the Shadow, I'd agree with you. She is as dangerous a meglomaniac as Valda the Whitecloak is.

NaCl(and I hope she has a similar fate)H2O
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You know... it feels like the Aes Sedai are pretty superflouous beetnemesis - 02/09/2009 09:48:19 PM 1521 Views
Y'know, the paralells betwen the Aes Sedai in the White Tower... vandevere - 02/09/2009 10:46:29 PM 1036 Views
Well said. Hadn't really thought of it that way before *NM* Bryce - 03/09/2009 12:01:30 AM 608 Views
That is the inspiration for the Aes Sedai that RJ used - I can't find the article, though. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/09/2009 02:39:14 PM 1012 Views
When I was reading this I was thinking of the paralells between the white tower and Tashmere - 03/09/2009 02:47:33 AM 1323 Views
And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 03:37:14 AM 1062 Views
Re: And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. Corwin - 03/09/2009 05:46:13 AM 1039 Views
Really? fionwe1987 - 03/09/2009 05:52:38 AM 1007 Views
Re: Really? Corwin - 03/09/2009 06:03:13 AM 979 Views
So lets add a few more NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 11:42:48 AM 974 Views
most of these are accounted for above ranagrande - 03/09/2009 02:18:01 PM 1043 Views
Just because we don't know all their names, doesn't mean their effectiveness on the Pattern was less RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/09/2009 03:19:41 PM 1072 Views
But who did the work? NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 05:37:00 PM 870 Views
While these are good, none of it is because of the White Tower beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:43:56 PM 906 Views
So if Elaida didn't order it, it doesn't count? NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 07:29:20 PM 906 Views
Actually I think that's his point ranagrande - 04/09/2009 01:40:37 PM 1028 Views
Spot-on beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 08:56:30 PM 835 Views
Re: Actually I think that's his point NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 03:17:25 AM 876 Views
Re: But who did the work? ranagrande - 04/09/2009 01:32:19 PM 960 Views
Only one point because obviously your mind is made up. NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 06:13:23 AM 966 Views
well, yeah ranagrande - 05/09/2009 02:33:51 PM 1012 Views
In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. fionwe1987 - 05/09/2009 03:03:07 PM 903 Views
Re: In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 888 Views
No, fionwe1987 is absolutely right! ranagrande - 05/09/2009 05:13:39 PM 860 Views
I'm glad the real world disagrees with you NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 05:05:50 PM 904 Views
I'm not convinced that it does ranagrande - 05/09/2009 05:44:10 PM 990 Views
I don't understand your point Sidious - 03/09/2009 04:25:22 PM 923 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Corwin - 03/09/2009 09:09:38 PM 946 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Sidious - 03/09/2009 09:23:53 PM 890 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Corwin - 05/09/2009 09:02:47 AM 1158 Views
Re: I don't understand your point NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 09:49:58 PM 885 Views
I was talking about the WT specifically, and only during recent years. It's Gotta be the Shadow, beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:39:11 PM 919 Views
So what you are really saying is that if you ignore over 2/3rds of the AS the rest aren't doing much NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 06:07:23 PM 862 Views
I'm talking about the organization as a whole beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 10:07:37 PM 939 Views
No you are talking about Elaida NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM 859 Views
You just made our point... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2009 12:49:44 AM 956 Views
Well, because most of her actions infringe on that "bubble" beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 09:00:52 PM 859 Views
Not at all... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2009 09:23:09 PM 962 Views
WT has been THE single greatest force for stagancy and lack of development. Lohikaarme - 09/09/2009 08:58:58 AM 912 Views
Like I said earlier the AS are superfluous except the ones who aren't superfluous. NaClH2O - 09/09/2009 11:55:47 AM 998 Views
To a certain extent ajsr1982 - 03/09/2009 11:33:30 AM 1151 Views
Definitely. And Egwene is in denial. beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:53:14 PM 930 Views
Some pretty big blanket statements NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:24:50 PM 1074 Views
Without the Tower Voscaia Sedai - 03/09/2009 02:05:09 PM 810 Views
Actually, I think Verin is a good metaphor here. nossy - 03/09/2009 07:59:46 PM 867 Views
Agrees with Nossy NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:44:06 PM 1179 Views
That's mostly what I was trying to say beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 09:03:52 PM 847 Views
Re: That's mostly what I was trying to say NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 03:33:46 AM 1186 Views
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