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Re: Parva is not a translation of the MB, though, is it. It's a reinterpretation. Which is fine. Danae al'Thor Send a noteboard - 09/07/2010 11:01:43 PM
If R. likes the traditional enough, I might send her some of the other stuff out there. But first she needs to read the actual epic, as is. We can look to our ancient history to sound like the stuff we read, see, think, do and observe - and that's fine. But it's also good to read our ancients from their point of view - where the Pandavas spent a little bit of time in hell for their sins, but were Heroes first and foremost.


The proper one. She's from India. ;)

Even in India, multiple translations of a work are known to exist. :P

I'm not going to throw my panties artound screaming it's the best, but it's pretty good. Engish translations tend to be heavily edited, or badly written, and when I say "edited" I mean "all the nasty stuff has been cut out", which pretty much negates the enture point of the text.

There's a new edition out, with a new translator who claims to have done his homework, but it's two hardcover volumes and I didn't want to risk sending it overseas until I knew what I was sending.

The KS translation is a good one. I promise! :P

I loved KS's translation. It was honest, but the heroes were still heroes. I think it is the definitive translation that adheres to "the Pandavas were Good" camp.

Have you read S.L. Bhrappa'sParva, though? Its translated from Kannada, and the translation has been botched up, but the way the man interpreted the story is fantastic.

The two hardcover translation sounds like Ramesh Menon. He's very good. Unlike most other translations, his story sticks to the form of a modern novel, but still manages to get the story out very well. The characters are presented more realistically as well. Definitely worth a read, as is his novel "Blue God", which chronicles the life of Krishna, with alternate chapters that deal with the Githa. Krishna here is a man who knows he's God, but is confused as to his ultimate purpose and scared of mucking up. Fascinating stuff.
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