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Agreed, but she just went overboard too far early on for it to be credible now. Legolas Send a noteboard - 06/12/2010 08:44:48 PM
I love, love, love that Rowling redeems Dudley in this book. Makes me forgive her for the flat characterisation of the Dursleys. A little more from Petunia again as well. Those tiny insights into the woman she could have been if she wasn't eaten up by jealousy are interesting.

As I've said before, the cupboard thing is really quite unforgiveable, and the only way you can - or, well, I'll speak for myself, the only way I can - accept the Dursleys' more human characters in the final two books is by conveniently forgetting book one, or taking it with a grain of salt on account of it being much more of a children's book.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book 7 - The Deathly Hallows - 24/11/2010 07:47:44 PM 3733 Views
Suggestions - tell us what we could do better for this final discussion. - 24/11/2010 07:48:22 PM 1605 Views
Spoilers for book 7? - 24/11/2010 09:07:28 PM 1753 Views
Re: Spoilers for book 7? - 24/11/2010 09:13:42 PM 1583 Views
*cough* - 16/12/2010 01:05:05 PM 1742 Views
The series as a whole: overall thoughts about the Harry Potter universe and all it contains - 24/11/2010 07:49:21 PM 1658 Views
I think it was/is so successful because... - 06/12/2010 11:06:59 PM 1729 Views
Overall thoughts for The Deathly Hallows - 24/11/2010 07:50:12 PM 1727 Views
This might be the only book other than the first where I actually like Harry. - 30/11/2010 03:13:25 PM 1630 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 30/11/2010 03:22:20 PM 893 Views
Argh, I keep mixing everything up with the movie! - 04/12/2010 03:45:24 PM 1766 Views
Re: Argh, I keep mixing everything up with the movie! - 04/12/2010 10:33:03 PM 1780 Views
all the un-evil ones. - 04/12/2010 11:54:22 PM 1659 Views
Re: all the un-evil ones. - 04/12/2010 11:57:09 PM 1739 Views
It's not as boring as I thought it was. - 06/12/2010 10:52:17 PM 1591 Views
Having finished it again... it's good, at times great, but not the best book in the series, imho. - 26/12/2010 08:19:47 PM 1869 Views
Yes and no - 26/12/2010 09:21:11 PM 1766 Views
Chapters 1-3: The Dark Lord Ascending, In Memorian, The Dursleys Departing. - 24/11/2010 07:51:29 PM 1728 Views
Characters: Voldemort, the Death Eaters, Harry, Dodge, Dumbledore, Skeeter & the Dursleys - 24/11/2010 07:52:55 PM 1755 Views
Snape, Draco, Lucius, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Ms Burbage, Dumbledore, and the Dursleys. - 24/11/2010 11:46:16 PM 1860 Views
Draco, female Death Eaters, Dumbledore. - 25/11/2010 04:44:36 PM 1895 Views
Re: Draco, female Death Eaters, Dumbledore. - 25/11/2010 04:53:25 PM 1786 Views
I always forget Bellatrix is married. - 26/11/2010 03:28:24 AM 2085 Views
As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 26/11/2010 10:56:30 AM 1818 Views
Re: As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 26/11/2010 11:12:18 AM 1791 Views
Dudley - 30/11/2010 01:40:09 PM 1851 Views
Re: As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 06/12/2010 08:41:56 PM 1713 Views
Re: Charity Burbage - 25/11/2010 06:47:43 PM 1710 Views
Re: Charity Burbage - 25/11/2010 06:48:52 PM 1630 Views
Re: Charity Burbage - 27/11/2010 11:35:48 AM 1774 Views
Re: Charity Burbage - 27/11/2010 11:37:28 AM 1731 Views
Dudley - 30/11/2010 03:16:25 PM 1643 Views
Re: Dudley - 30/11/2010 03:23:02 PM 1789 Views
And hated that it's not in the movie - 04/12/2010 04:15:31 PM 1756 Views
Agreed, but she just went overboard too far early on for it to be credible now. - 06/12/2010 08:44:48 PM 1802 Views
Plotting, writing, early themes. - 24/11/2010 07:53:33 PM 1709 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 24/11/2010 11:47:19 PM 1834 Views
Correction - 25/11/2010 12:38:57 AM 1729 Views
Re: Correction - 25/11/2010 12:40:48 AM 1686 Views
Re: *spoilers for book 7* <--- - 27/11/2010 11:42:47 AM 1934 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 24/11/2010 07:53:46 PM 742 Views
The epigraphs. - 24/11/2010 10:06:58 PM 1815 Views
I had considered making a separate section just for them. - 27/11/2010 11:44:01 AM 1649 Views
other stuff - 24/11/2010 11:47:54 PM 1579 Views
I've always thought Rowling went overboard with the Nazi links. - 25/11/2010 04:26:58 PM 1588 Views
Re: I've always thought Rowling went overboard with the Nazi links. - 27/11/2010 01:20:44 AM 1668 Views
Isn't it "the dear departed" and "dearly beloved"? *NM* - 26/11/2010 11:32:22 PM 845 Views
Maybe? - 26/11/2010 11:34:32 PM 1545 Views
Chapters 4-6: The Seven Potters, The Fallen Warrior, The Ghoul in Pyjamas *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:27:53 PM 850 Views
Characters: Harry, the Order, Hedwig, Mr & Mrs Tonks, Voldemort, etc - 26/11/2010 07:29:48 PM 1707 Views
Re: the film & Hermione - 26/11/2010 08:38:05 PM 1570 Views
Oh yes. - 26/11/2010 08:46:23 PM 1681 Views
Re: the film & Hermione - 27/11/2010 01:24:40 AM 1628 Views
Re: the film & Hermione - 27/11/2010 12:01:19 PM 1568 Views
Me too - 04/12/2010 03:40:38 PM 1617 Views
The Delacours - 30/11/2010 03:01:35 PM 1616 Views
Re: The Delacours - 30/11/2010 03:23:33 PM 1540 Views
The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 26/11/2010 07:30:35 PM 1587 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 27/11/2010 11:59:36 AM 1911 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 30/11/2010 03:05:38 PM 1782 Views
Yes, Dumbledore gives a very complex answer about the wand thing - 01/12/2010 08:44:57 PM 1583 Views
The Portkeys make a certain amount of sense, actually. - 06/12/2010 08:56:24 PM 2006 Views
Good point! - 06/12/2010 09:59:11 PM 1676 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:30:49 PM 839 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 01:30:12 AM 1615 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 03:30:26 AM 1601 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 12:04:21 PM 1671 Views
Mr Weasley's additions to the motorbike are hilarious. - 27/11/2010 06:48:50 PM 1682 Views
Chapters 7-9: The Will of Albus Dumbledore, The Wedding, A Place to Hide - 29/11/2010 06:39:52 PM 1554 Views
The characters: usual suspects, Scrimgeour, Doge, Krum, Luna, Xenophilius, etc. - 29/11/2010 06:41:41 PM 1657 Views
Mrs Weasley, Ginny, Lupin, Mr Lovegood, Luna, Hermione - 29/11/2010 06:56:31 PM 1754 Views
Re: Mrs Weasley, Ginny, Lupin, Mr Lovegood, Luna, Hermione - 30/11/2010 01:54:33 PM 1791 Views
I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 09:00:28 PM 1627 Views
Re: I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 09:55:00 PM 1599 Views
Re: I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 10:06:01 PM 1774 Views
The action. - 29/11/2010 06:42:10 PM 1553 Views
Plotting, mainly. - 29/11/2010 06:57:06 PM 1674 Views
Hermione and obliviate. - 30/11/2010 02:23:51 PM 1635 Views
Re: Hermione and obliviate. - 30/11/2010 03:24:06 PM 1680 Views
I think this was a Rowling mistake. It happens - 01/12/2010 08:32:25 PM 1700 Views
I wondered that same thing. *NM* - 02/12/2010 05:09:49 AM 862 Views
I might have my timeline mixed up - 04/12/2010 04:12:50 PM 1688 Views
Re: I might have my timeline mixed up - 09/12/2010 02:38:44 AM 1689 Views
Kreacher quoting Regulus raises an interesting point... - 06/12/2010 08:33:02 PM 1817 Views
Re: Kreacher quoting Regulus raises an interesting point... - 06/12/2010 09:52:59 PM 1759 Views
IIRC - 06/12/2010 10:06:23 PM 1837 Views
Re: IIRC - 06/12/2010 10:09:44 PM 1745 Views
Please, sir, may I have some more? *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:44:14 PM 803 Views
I want magic for my wedding *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:57:29 PM 854 Views
I'll see what I can do. *NM* - 30/11/2010 02:58:17 PM 896 Views
I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 02:59:04 PM 1686 Views
Re: I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 03:24:35 PM 1555 Views
And back in book 4. Dumbledore sends Hagrid a message like this - 01/12/2010 08:33:46 PM 1625 Views
Chapters 10-12: Kreacher's Tale, The Bribe, Magic is Might - 01/12/2010 11:41:40 PM 1533 Views
Characters: more of the trio, Kreacher, Mundungus, RAB and Umbridge - 01/12/2010 11:42:34 PM 1577 Views
Hermione and Ron, Sirius, Regulus, Kreacher, Lupin, Harry, Scrimgeour - 02/12/2010 09:11:21 AM 1859 Views
I'm not sure why we're supposed to be surprised about Scrimgeour. - 06/12/2010 09:46:27 PM 1871 Views
Not surprising, perhaps. - 06/12/2010 09:56:58 PM 1652 Views
Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 09:54:53 PM 1658 Views
Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:05:57 PM 1688 Views
Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:10:27 PM 1589 Views
And? And? And? *NM* - 01/12/2010 11:43:46 PM 849 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Muggle-Born Registration Commission, The Thief, The Goblin's Revenge *NM* - 04/12/2010 11:01:25 AM 1001 Views
Plotting, writing, theming. - 04/12/2010 11:08:47 AM 1828 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 04/12/2010 11:10:52 AM 885 Views
It may be a stretch, but with all the Nazi references, any WW2 reference is gonna catch my eye. - 06/12/2010 10:09:04 PM 1687 Views
Good catch - 06/12/2010 10:19:21 PM 1543 Views
Chapters 16-18: Godric's Hollow, Bathilda's Secret, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore - 06/12/2010 09:57:00 PM 1668 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Bathilda, Dumbledore and others - 06/12/2010 09:57:52 PM 1766 Views
Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:02:13 PM 1805 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:14:26 PM 1876 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:18:15 PM 1953 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:34:15 PM 1654 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:36:18 PM 1677 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:39:58 PM 1949 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:42:27 PM 1539 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:46:58 PM 1594 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:48:59 PM 1553 Views
I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 1558 Views
Re: I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:55:54 PM 1610 Views
True, but still. *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 826 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 1656 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 1784 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 1609 Views
But wait! There's more! - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 1620 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 1309 Views
Re: As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:32:04 PM 1631 Views
Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 859 Views
Chapters 19-21: The Silver Doe, Xenophilius Lovegood, The Tale of the Three Brothers - 08/12/2010 08:47:04 PM 1706 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Lovegood ... and not many more. *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:49:28 PM 906 Views
Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 12:01:57 AM 1797 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM 1825 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 08:03:05 PM 1693 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 11:48:08 PM 1900 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 08:44:01 PM 1729 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:00:44 PM 1655 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 1647 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 1660 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 1607 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 1636 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 1700 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 829 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 1773 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 1657 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 1655 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 1630 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 1612 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 1807 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 1355 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 823 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 1553 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 1761 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 836 Views
Chapters 22-24: The Deathly Hallows, Malfoy Manor, The Wandmaker. - 10/12/2010 09:11:32 PM 1563 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 876 Views
Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 10/12/2010 11:23:09 PM 1864 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 13/12/2010 08:47:27 PM 1690 Views
On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 1721 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 1729 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 1603 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 09:42:31 AM 1667 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 1716 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 841 Views
Chapters 25-27: Shell Cottage, Gringotts, The Final Hiding Place - 13/12/2010 10:03:15 PM 1583 Views
Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 823 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 1521 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 1753 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 1781 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 1963 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 1701 Views
Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 734 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 1608 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 1591 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 1621 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 1518 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 1540 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 1625 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 837 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 1729 Views
Chapters 28-30: The Missing Mirror, The Lost Diadem, The Sacking of Severus Snape *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:20 PM 866 Views
Characters *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 806 Views
Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 16/12/2010 11:52:46 PM 1880 Views
Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 1659 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 1973 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 1730 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 1832 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 1636 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 823 Views
red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 16/12/2010 11:53:56 PM 1704 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 05:38:46 PM 1690 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 11:06:01 PM 1871 Views
Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 842 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 1664 Views
Re: Filch and a password. - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 1616 Views
Chapters 31-33: The Battle for Hogwarts, The Elder Wand, The Prince's Tale - 19/12/2010 07:56:39 PM 1676 Views
Characters: far too many to mention. - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 1550 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 1883 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 1730 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 1668 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2041 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 1700 Views
memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 09:32:27 AM 1457 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 1780 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 1662 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 1632 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 1781 Views
Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 755 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 1556 Views
Chapters 34-36: The Forest Again, King's Cross, The Flaw in the Plan - 20/12/2010 07:31:27 PM 1564 Views
Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 1578 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 1719 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 1801 Views
Re: The Malfoys and Molly - 02/01/2011 10:35:47 AM 1808 Views
Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 1563 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 1695 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 1613 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 1677 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 1973 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 1722 Views

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