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Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. Camilla Send a noteboard - 06/12/2010 10:18:15 PM
Dumbledore: Harry's interpretation of why Dumbledore did not raise the connection of Godric's Hollow so that they could share it is, as usual, rather off, I think. It seems clear to me that the reason why he did not is that the memory of Godric's Hollow and how his sister ended up sharing the graveyard with Harry's parents is too painful. Harry can desire the bond, as he has no guilt in the death of his parents, but Dumbledore cannot do the same. (This is not a slight on Harry's understanding: he could not have known with the information he has at the time.)

Yeah. I think it's part of the characterisation of a teenager. I think Rowling must have been writing this book around the time of the big "discovery" that teenagers are dreadful at interpreting other people's emotions. ;)


That sounds very plausible.

And while I quite firmly believe that authorial intention cannot dictate interpretation, I love Rowling's explanation that Dumbledore was in love with Grindewald. It makes perfect sense to me and adds another side to the story. It fits. It was not obvious to me when I first read the story, but it is definitely part of it now.

It does indeed.

Hermione and Harry: they take turns walking on egg-shells. Hermione more than Harry, I think. Even when she is crying because Ron has left, it seems that not mentioning him is based mainly in Harry's feelings of betrayal.

Voldemort: I liked the peek into his head when the relives killing the Potters. The evaluation of them as weak because they live a normal life without constant vigilance, the focus on the inexplicably dangerous child.

I was surprised that he said Lily didn't need to die. Can't remember right now whether he told her that or just thought it, but it's very surprising. He was quite gung ho about killing James. Maybe it was a promise to Snape or something like that? Lily is the reason Snape turned away from Voldemort.

...

I might be reading too much into that?


No, I don't think you read too much into it at all. It is very plausible, certainly as I read it. Snape does say later on, I think (or earlier on -- I think it is in his memory) that Voldemort had promised not to hurt Lily. Clearly we now see how much promises mean to him.

Rita Skeeter: are there really no laws against using veritaserum on people? She is quite open about it. I find it baffling. Also, I hate the woman.

I wondered exactly the same thing. But maybe at this point she knows it's not a problem because the Ministry's busy with other stuff (and obviously utterly corrupt).
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As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 2152 Views
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What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 2504 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 1261 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 2613 Views
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I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 2433 Views
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up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 2219 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 1239 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 2399 Views
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Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 1254 Views
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On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 2536 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 2571 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 2448 Views
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Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 2580 Views
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Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 1243 Views
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The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 2611 Views
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Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2833 Views
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Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 1169 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 2454 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 2433 Views
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Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 2358 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 2373 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 2453 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 1283 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 2544 Views
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Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 2500 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 2816 Views
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I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 2726 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 2468 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 1270 Views
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Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 1282 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 2502 Views
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Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 2758 Views
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The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 2539 Views
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Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 1183 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 2354 Views
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Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 2571 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 2679 Views
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Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 2415 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 2540 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 2525 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 2501 Views
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I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 2535 Views

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