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Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. StormCrow Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM
Snape: Is there a remnant of semi-sadistic attitude to Harry in making him get the sword by diving into a frozen lake? I can imagine him smiling at the thought, in a "oh, my, god save me from Gryffindors and their heroics" kind of way. Not in an evil way. More in an "I'll be damned if I make this too easy" way. Perhaps not. More likely, I suppose, it is in order to make it make sense to Harry, as it does.

I like this moment for Snape. While he is never visible, it appeals to me. We get to see it again in his memories, I think?


We do find out that this was him in the pensieve memories he leaves for Harry. His memory was primarily around conjuring his patronus, IIRC. I love that it's him and love that he does it unseen. His revelations chapter at the end is the best in the series for me. It uncovers all sorts of things he's gone through, thanklessly, to help everyone.

Ron: Is saving Harry his first real act of bravery? I mean, he has followed Harry into scary places before, but this seems like the first time he has done something brave impulsively and by himself. Or is there something I have forgotten?


This goes a long way to redeeming him as a character and fixing his relationship with Harry / Hermoine. He's finally done something, on his own, not just as a bi-product of following Harry around. I never really understood that about his character. We talked earlier about the Harry / Hermoine combo and how effective they are as a pair. This finally gives Ron something to stand on as his own, as a contributing member of the trio, as does destroying the horcrux. Seems kind of like a turning point for him because he starts coming up with things throughout the rest of the book, i.e. planning for Gringots, the basalisk fangs, etc.

Hermione: I really liked her reaction to the reappearance of Ron. The whole scene is well played. Both the anger and the sarcasm at his hardships.


This was a fantastic way for her to react. Love that she makes him earn his way back in, despite that he's already done something more impactful and brave than he has for the entire beginning of the series.

I cannot quite blame him for turning them in. He is desperate and has no way of coping with it.

Luna: Her hearbreakingness continues with the painting on the ceiling.


Can definitely understand Xeno giving them up. They promised him his daughter back afterall and she's all he has left. The painting was very touching. Luna is awesome.

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Good point! - 06/12/2010 09:59:11 PM 2656 Views
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True, but still. *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 1331 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 2609 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 2786 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 2566 Views
But wait! There's more! - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 2618 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 2298 Views
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Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 1356 Views
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Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 08:03:05 PM 2717 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 11:48:08 PM 2879 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 08:44:01 PM 2725 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:00:44 PM 2660 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 2673 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 2640 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 2621 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 2696 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 2638 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 1336 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 2756 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 2696 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 2750 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 2580 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 2614 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 2742 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 2364 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 1321 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 2535 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 2703 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 1335 Views
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On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 2676 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 2707 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 2602 Views
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Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 2712 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 1364 Views
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Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 1321 Views
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The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 2755 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 2824 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2981 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 2704 Views
Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 1252 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 2593 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 2585 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 2613 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 2488 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 2503 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 2615 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 1367 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 2696 Views
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Characters *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 1300 Views
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Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 2656 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 2960 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 2676 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 2863 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 2596 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 1348 Views
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Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 1366 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 2642 Views
Re: Filch and a password. - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 2597 Views
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Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 2931 Views
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The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 2673 Views
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Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 2737 Views
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Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 2758 Views
Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 1254 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 2493 Views
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Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 2596 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 2707 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 2809 Views
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Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 2547 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 2677 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 2670 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 2631 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 2947 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 2670 Views

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