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Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. StormCrow Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM
Snape: Is there a remnant of semi-sadistic attitude to Harry in making him get the sword by diving into a frozen lake? I can imagine him smiling at the thought, in a "oh, my, god save me from Gryffindors and their heroics" kind of way. Not in an evil way. More in an "I'll be damned if I make this too easy" way. Perhaps not. More likely, I suppose, it is in order to make it make sense to Harry, as it does.

I like this moment for Snape. While he is never visible, it appeals to me. We get to see it again in his memories, I think?


We do find out that this was him in the pensieve memories he leaves for Harry. His memory was primarily around conjuring his patronus, IIRC. I love that it's him and love that he does it unseen. His revelations chapter at the end is the best in the series for me. It uncovers all sorts of things he's gone through, thanklessly, to help everyone.

Ron: Is saving Harry his first real act of bravery? I mean, he has followed Harry into scary places before, but this seems like the first time he has done something brave impulsively and by himself. Or is there something I have forgotten?


This goes a long way to redeeming him as a character and fixing his relationship with Harry / Hermoine. He's finally done something, on his own, not just as a bi-product of following Harry around. I never really understood that about his character. We talked earlier about the Harry / Hermoine combo and how effective they are as a pair. This finally gives Ron something to stand on as his own, as a contributing member of the trio, as does destroying the horcrux. Seems kind of like a turning point for him because he starts coming up with things throughout the rest of the book, i.e. planning for Gringots, the basalisk fangs, etc.

Hermione: I really liked her reaction to the reappearance of Ron. The whole scene is well played. Both the anger and the sarcasm at his hardships.


This was a fantastic way for her to react. Love that she makes him earn his way back in, despite that he's already done something more impactful and brave than he has for the entire beginning of the series.

I cannot quite blame him for turning them in. He is desperate and has no way of coping with it.

Luna: Her hearbreakingness continues with the painting on the ceiling.


Can definitely understand Xeno giving them up. They promised him his daughter back afterall and she's all he has left. The painting was very touching. Luna is awesome.

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Oh yes. - 26/11/2010 08:46:23 PM 2573 Views
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Good point! - 06/12/2010 09:59:11 PM 2577 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:30:49 PM 1337 Views
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Mr Weasley's additions to the motorbike are hilarious. - 27/11/2010 06:48:50 PM 2608 Views
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I wondered that same thing. *NM* - 02/12/2010 05:09:49 AM 1306 Views
I might have my timeline mixed up - 04/12/2010 04:12:50 PM 2570 Views
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I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 2552 Views
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True, but still. *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 1284 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 2531 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 2707 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 2486 Views
But wait! There's more! - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 2537 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 2202 Views
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Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 1316 Views
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Characters: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Lovegood ... and not many more. *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:49:28 PM 1366 Views
Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 12:01:57 AM 2697 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM 2750 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 08:03:05 PM 2621 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 11:48:08 PM 2801 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 08:44:01 PM 2638 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:00:44 PM 2585 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 2583 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 2564 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 2541 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 2609 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 2564 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 1290 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 2682 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 2612 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 2645 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 2502 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 2540 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 2663 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 2280 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 1276 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 2451 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 2634 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 1289 Views
Chapters 22-24: The Deathly Hallows, Malfoy Manor, The Wandmaker. - 10/12/2010 09:11:32 PM 2448 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 1346 Views
Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 10/12/2010 11:23:09 PM 2800 Views
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On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 2603 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 2624 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 2513 Views
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Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 2635 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 1318 Views
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Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 1273 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 2467 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 2671 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 2725 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2899 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 2616 Views
Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 1203 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 2517 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 2492 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 2530 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 2411 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 2426 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 2523 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 1316 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 2608 Views
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Characters *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 1253 Views
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Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 2566 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 2879 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 2596 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 2780 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 2520 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 1304 Views
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Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 11:06:01 PM 2802 Views
Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 1316 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 2563 Views
Re: Filch and a password. - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 2519 Views
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Characters: far too many to mention. - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 2456 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 2827 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 2707 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 2584 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2930 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 2600 Views
memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 09:32:27 AM 2385 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 2657 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 2571 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 2563 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 2668 Views
Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 1213 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 2418 Views
Chapters 34-36: The Forest Again, King's Cross, The Flaw in the Plan - 20/12/2010 07:31:27 PM 2459 Views
Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 2518 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 2630 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 2732 Views
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Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 2471 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 2599 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 2587 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 2551 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 2873 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 2590 Views

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