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Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. Camilla Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM
But judging by my reaction when I read Camilla's post, it seems unlikely I'll change my mind about finding the whole Elder Wand thing utterly lame, contrived and cheapening the book if not the whole series. As is, incidentally, the way Rowling suddenly tells us out of nowhere, with Ron's extremely belated realization confirming Xenophilius' words, that invisibility cloaks aren't supposed to be like Harry's. I strongly disagree with Camilla that it feels as if she's planned this for a long time (though she well may have done), considering that the only one of the three Hallows that's been displayed prior to this point requires the borderline retconning revelation of its being unique, to fit into it.


Hmm, you are probably right. She has been dropping hints that invisibility charms wear off, I think (Fred and George's hats, unless I am mistaken), but she could have made a much clearer points about the invisibility cloak. While there has not been any discussion of wand lore and the elder wand before, at least the battle of Dumbledore and Grindewald has cropped up from time to time.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book 7 - The Deathly Hallows - 24/11/2010 07:47:44 PM 6108 Views
Suggestions - tell us what we could do better for this final discussion. - 24/11/2010 07:48:22 PM 2439 Views
Spoilers for book 7? - 24/11/2010 09:07:28 PM 2542 Views
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*cough* - 16/12/2010 01:05:05 PM 2548 Views
The series as a whole: overall thoughts about the Harry Potter universe and all it contains - 24/11/2010 07:49:21 PM 2473 Views
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Agreed. *NM* - 30/11/2010 03:22:20 PM 1312 Views
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all the un-evil ones. - 04/12/2010 11:54:22 PM 2502 Views
Re: all the un-evil ones. - 04/12/2010 11:57:09 PM 2563 Views
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Yes and no - 26/12/2010 09:21:11 PM 2598 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* - 24/11/2010 11:47:19 PM 2624 Views
Correction - 25/11/2010 12:38:57 AM 2569 Views
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Re: *spoilers for book 7* <--- - 27/11/2010 11:42:47 AM 2745 Views
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Maybe? - 26/11/2010 11:34:32 PM 2370 Views
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Oh yes. - 26/11/2010 08:46:23 PM 2484 Views
Re: the film & Hermione - 27/11/2010 01:24:40 AM 2426 Views
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The Delacours - 30/11/2010 03:01:35 PM 2394 Views
Re: The Delacours - 30/11/2010 03:23:33 PM 2361 Views
The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 26/11/2010 07:30:35 PM 2376 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 27/11/2010 11:59:36 AM 2771 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 30/11/2010 03:05:38 PM 2576 Views
Yes, Dumbledore gives a very complex answer about the wand thing - 01/12/2010 08:44:57 PM 2381 Views
The Portkeys make a certain amount of sense, actually. - 06/12/2010 08:56:24 PM 2802 Views
Good point! - 06/12/2010 09:59:11 PM 2474 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:30:49 PM 1280 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 01:30:12 AM 2415 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 03:30:26 AM 2413 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 12:04:21 PM 2474 Views
Mr Weasley's additions to the motorbike are hilarious. - 27/11/2010 06:48:50 PM 2506 Views
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Mrs Weasley, Ginny, Lupin, Mr Lovegood, Luna, Hermione - 29/11/2010 06:56:31 PM 2536 Views
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I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 09:00:28 PM 2397 Views
Re: I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 09:55:00 PM 2422 Views
Re: I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 10:06:01 PM 2613 Views
The action. - 29/11/2010 06:42:10 PM 2328 Views
Plotting, mainly. - 29/11/2010 06:57:06 PM 2488 Views
Hermione and obliviate. - 30/11/2010 02:23:51 PM 2416 Views
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I think this was a Rowling mistake. It happens - 01/12/2010 08:32:25 PM 2494 Views
I wondered that same thing. *NM* - 02/12/2010 05:09:49 AM 1253 Views
I might have my timeline mixed up - 04/12/2010 04:12:50 PM 2471 Views
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IIRC - 06/12/2010 10:06:23 PM 2673 Views
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Please, sir, may I have some more? *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:44:14 PM 1210 Views
I want magic for my wedding *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:57:29 PM 1250 Views
I'll see what I can do. *NM* - 30/11/2010 02:58:17 PM 1307 Views
I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 02:59:04 PM 2473 Views
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Not surprising, perhaps. - 06/12/2010 09:56:58 PM 2431 Views
Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 09:54:53 PM 2463 Views
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Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:10:27 PM 2435 Views
And? And? And? *NM* - 01/12/2010 11:43:46 PM 1276 Views
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Plotting, writing, theming. - 04/12/2010 11:08:47 AM 2628 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 04/12/2010 11:10:52 AM 1292 Views
It may be a stretch, but with all the Nazi references, any WW2 reference is gonna catch my eye. - 06/12/2010 10:09:04 PM 2456 Views
Good catch - 06/12/2010 10:19:21 PM 2340 Views
Chapters 16-18: Godric's Hollow, Bathilda's Secret, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore - 06/12/2010 09:57:00 PM 2472 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Bathilda, Dumbledore and others - 06/12/2010 09:57:52 PM 2604 Views
Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:02:13 PM 2581 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:14:26 PM 2654 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:18:15 PM 2787 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:34:15 PM 2459 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:36:18 PM 2489 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:39:58 PM 2708 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:42:27 PM 2405 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:46:58 PM 2373 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:48:59 PM 2408 Views
I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 2455 Views
Re: I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:55:54 PM 2422 Views
True, but still. *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 1228 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 2436 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 2612 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 2399 Views
But wait! There's more! - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 2449 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 2115 Views
Re: As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:32:04 PM 2482 Views
Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 1267 Views
Chapters 19-21: The Silver Doe, Xenophilius Lovegood, The Tale of the Three Brothers - 08/12/2010 08:47:04 PM 2487 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Lovegood ... and not many more. *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:49:28 PM 1318 Views
Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 12:01:57 AM 2589 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM 2658 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 08:03:05 PM 2524 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 11:48:08 PM 2695 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 08:44:01 PM 2545 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:00:44 PM 2491 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 2494 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 2465 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 2432 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 2523 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 2472 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 1243 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 2568 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 2493 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 2534 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 2394 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 2424 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 2561 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 2176 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 1223 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 2360 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 2541 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 1240 Views
Chapters 22-24: The Deathly Hallows, Malfoy Manor, The Wandmaker. - 10/12/2010 09:11:32 PM 2349 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 1290 Views
Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 10/12/2010 11:23:09 PM 2705 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 13/12/2010 08:47:27 PM 2513 Views
On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 2502 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 2535 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 2406 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 09:42:31 AM 2496 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 2521 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 1260 Views
Chapters 25-27: Shell Cottage, Gringotts, The Final Hiding Place - 13/12/2010 10:03:15 PM 2396 Views
Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 1224 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 2372 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 2574 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 2620 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2791 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 2525 Views
Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 1150 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 2408 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 2392 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 2426 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 2323 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 2321 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 2414 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 1264 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 2499 Views
Chapters 28-30: The Missing Mirror, The Lost Diadem, The Sacking of Severus Snape *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:20 PM 1279 Views
Characters *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 1207 Views
Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 16/12/2010 11:52:46 PM 2703 Views
Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 2448 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 2777 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 2496 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 2680 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 2431 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 1252 Views
red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 16/12/2010 11:53:56 PM 2494 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 05:38:46 PM 2470 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 11:06:01 PM 2708 Views
Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 1265 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 2453 Views
Re: Filch and a password. - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 2425 Views
Chapters 31-33: The Battle for Hogwarts, The Elder Wand, The Prince's Tale - 19/12/2010 07:56:39 PM 2460 Views
Characters: far too many to mention. - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 2349 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 2719 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 2604 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 2484 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2842 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 2503 Views
memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 09:32:27 AM 2289 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 2570 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 2484 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 2462 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 2575 Views
Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 1168 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 2320 Views
Chapters 34-36: The Forest Again, King's Cross, The Flaw in the Plan - 20/12/2010 07:31:27 PM 2368 Views
Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 2406 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 2529 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 2644 Views
Re: The Malfoys and Molly - 02/01/2011 10:35:47 AM 2599 Views
Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 2369 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 2508 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 2486 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 2465 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 2775 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 2496 Views

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