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Plus, it totally cheapens ability and skill if you have some "magic (magic) wand". Legolas Send a noteboard - 10/12/2010 08:56:28 PM
Hmm, you are probably right. She has been dropping hints that invisibility charms wear off, I think (Fred and George's hats, unless I am mistaken), but she could have made a much clearer points about the invisibility cloak. While there has not been any discussion of wand lore and the elder wand before, at least the battle of Dumbledore and Grindewald has cropped up from time to time.

You would think Britons, as sports lovers and great believers in fairness and sportsmanship, would share my disdain for cheap tricks like an "invincible wand", but apparently not Harry (on Voldemort's part I can't say it's a surprise).

When I first read the book, I was convinced (until well after that theory had ceased to be plausible, I have the bad habit of doing that) that the Elder Wand would prove to be exactly what it seemed like - a lame story, real or not, but with no real importance for the actual plot of the series. After all, what with our long-established rule of Harry Being Wrong, and his obsession with the topic in the chapter "The Deathly Hallows" against Hermione's and Ron's better judgement, it would've made a lot of sense. :P But noooo, she has to go and actually mean it seriously.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book 7 - The Deathly Hallows - 24/11/2010 07:47:44 PM 4205 Views
Suggestions - tell us what we could do better for this final discussion. - 24/11/2010 07:48:22 PM 1992 Views
Spoilers for book 7? - 24/11/2010 09:07:28 PM 2123 Views
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*cough* - 16/12/2010 01:05:05 PM 2120 Views
The series as a whole: overall thoughts about the Harry Potter universe and all it contains - 24/11/2010 07:49:21 PM 2024 Views
I think it was/is so successful because... - 06/12/2010 11:06:59 PM 2102 Views
Overall thoughts for The Deathly Hallows - 24/11/2010 07:50:12 PM 2092 Views
This might be the only book other than the first where I actually like Harry. - 30/11/2010 03:13:25 PM 2000 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 30/11/2010 03:22:20 PM 1074 Views
Argh, I keep mixing everything up with the movie! - 04/12/2010 03:45:24 PM 2132 Views
Re: Argh, I keep mixing everything up with the movie! - 04/12/2010 10:33:03 PM 2154 Views
all the un-evil ones. - 04/12/2010 11:54:22 PM 2043 Views
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Having finished it again... it's good, at times great, but not the best book in the series, imho. - 26/12/2010 08:19:47 PM 2249 Views
Yes and no - 26/12/2010 09:21:11 PM 2141 Views
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And hated that it's not in the movie - 04/12/2010 04:15:31 PM 2134 Views
Plotting, writing, early themes. - 24/11/2010 07:53:33 PM 2090 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 24/11/2010 11:47:19 PM 2220 Views
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Re: *spoilers for book 7* <--- - 27/11/2010 11:42:47 AM 2306 Views
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The epigraphs. - 24/11/2010 10:06:58 PM 2185 Views
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other stuff - 24/11/2010 11:47:54 PM 1960 Views
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Re: I've always thought Rowling went overboard with the Nazi links. - 27/11/2010 01:20:44 AM 2046 Views
Isn't it "the dear departed" and "dearly beloved"? *NM* - 26/11/2010 11:32:22 PM 1025 Views
Maybe? - 26/11/2010 11:34:32 PM 1920 Views
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Oh yes. - 26/11/2010 08:46:23 PM 2072 Views
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Me too - 04/12/2010 03:40:38 PM 1984 Views
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The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 26/11/2010 07:30:35 PM 1950 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 27/11/2010 11:59:36 AM 2320 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 30/11/2010 03:05:38 PM 2164 Views
Yes, Dumbledore gives a very complex answer about the wand thing - 01/12/2010 08:44:57 PM 1952 Views
The Portkeys make a certain amount of sense, actually. - 06/12/2010 08:56:24 PM 2383 Views
Good point! - 06/12/2010 09:59:11 PM 2052 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:30:49 PM 1017 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 01:30:12 AM 1993 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 03:30:26 AM 1979 Views
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Mr Weasley's additions to the motorbike are hilarious. - 27/11/2010 06:48:50 PM 2042 Views
Chapters 7-9: The Will of Albus Dumbledore, The Wedding, A Place to Hide - 29/11/2010 06:39:52 PM 1935 Views
The characters: usual suspects, Scrimgeour, Doge, Krum, Luna, Xenophilius, etc. - 29/11/2010 06:41:41 PM 2036 Views
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I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 09:00:28 PM 1996 Views
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Re: I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 10:06:01 PM 2163 Views
The action. - 29/11/2010 06:42:10 PM 1918 Views
Plotting, mainly. - 29/11/2010 06:57:06 PM 2041 Views
Hermione and obliviate. - 30/11/2010 02:23:51 PM 1987 Views
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I think this was a Rowling mistake. It happens - 01/12/2010 08:32:25 PM 2073 Views
I wondered that same thing. *NM* - 02/12/2010 05:09:49 AM 1023 Views
I might have my timeline mixed up - 04/12/2010 04:12:50 PM 2044 Views
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Please, sir, may I have some more? *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:44:14 PM 965 Views
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I'll see what I can do. *NM* - 30/11/2010 02:58:17 PM 1067 Views
I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 02:59:04 PM 2055 Views
Re: I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 03:24:35 PM 1927 Views
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Hermione and Ron, Sirius, Regulus, Kreacher, Lupin, Harry, Scrimgeour - 02/12/2010 09:11:21 AM 2235 Views
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Not surprising, perhaps. - 06/12/2010 09:56:58 PM 2013 Views
Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 09:54:53 PM 2025 Views
Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:05:57 PM 2048 Views
Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:10:27 PM 1980 Views
And? And? And? *NM* - 01/12/2010 11:43:46 PM 1015 Views
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Plotting, writing, theming. - 04/12/2010 11:08:47 AM 2188 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 04/12/2010 11:10:52 AM 1045 Views
It may be a stretch, but with all the Nazi references, any WW2 reference is gonna catch my eye. - 06/12/2010 10:09:04 PM 2044 Views
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Characters: Harry, Hermione, Bathilda, Dumbledore and others - 06/12/2010 09:57:52 PM 2120 Views
Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:02:13 PM 2156 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:14:26 PM 2236 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:18:15 PM 2341 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:34:15 PM 2022 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:36:18 PM 2039 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:39:58 PM 2288 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:42:27 PM 1946 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:46:58 PM 1964 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:48:59 PM 1926 Views
I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 1985 Views
Re: I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:55:54 PM 1974 Views
True, but still. *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 983 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 2022 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 2174 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 1976 Views
But wait! There's more! - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 2000 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 1677 Views
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Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 1021 Views
Chapters 19-21: The Silver Doe, Xenophilius Lovegood, The Tale of the Three Brothers - 08/12/2010 08:47:04 PM 2070 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Lovegood ... and not many more. *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:49:28 PM 1073 Views
Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 12:01:57 AM 2155 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM 2186 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 08:03:05 PM 2070 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 11:48:08 PM 2272 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 08:44:01 PM 2096 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:00:44 PM 2060 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 2026 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 2044 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 1980 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 2021 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 2059 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 1001 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 2141 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 2043 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 2031 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 1996 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 1987 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 2166 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 1745 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 981 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 1944 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 2120 Views
Plus, it totally cheapens ability and skill if you have some "magic (magic) wand". - 10/12/2010 08:56:28 PM 2082 Views
Re: Plus, it totally cheapens ability and skill if you have some "magic (magic) wand". - 10/12/2010 08:59:41 PM 2166 Views
That's definitely a part of it. - 10/12/2010 09:09:54 PM 2018 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 1001 Views
Chapters 22-24: The Deathly Hallows, Malfoy Manor, The Wandmaker. - 10/12/2010 09:11:32 PM 1931 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 1038 Views
Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 10/12/2010 11:23:09 PM 2232 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 13/12/2010 08:47:27 PM 2061 Views
On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 2088 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 2106 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 1981 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 09:42:31 AM 2056 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 2093 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 1007 Views
Chapters 25-27: Shell Cottage, Gringotts, The Final Hiding Place - 13/12/2010 10:03:15 PM 1967 Views
Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 991 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 1893 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 2120 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 2163 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2339 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 2042 Views
Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 904 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 1984 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 1968 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 1987 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 1886 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 1916 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 1980 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 1013 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 2076 Views
Chapters 28-30: The Missing Mirror, The Lost Diadem, The Sacking of Severus Snape *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:20 PM 1038 Views
Characters *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 970 Views
Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 16/12/2010 11:52:46 PM 2247 Views
Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 2018 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 2364 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 2087 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 2209 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 2015 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 990 Views
red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 16/12/2010 11:53:56 PM 2077 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 05:38:46 PM 2048 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 11:06:01 PM 2257 Views
Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 1015 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 2016 Views
Re: Filch and a password. - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 1980 Views
Chapters 31-33: The Battle for Hogwarts, The Elder Wand, The Prince's Tale - 19/12/2010 07:56:39 PM 2040 Views
Characters: far too many to mention. - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 1923 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 2281 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 2145 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 2035 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2418 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 2067 Views
memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 09:32:27 AM 1842 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 2134 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 2025 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 2014 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 2146 Views
Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 923 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 1900 Views
Chapters 34-36: The Forest Again, King's Cross, The Flaw in the Plan - 20/12/2010 07:31:27 PM 1921 Views
Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 1956 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 2094 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 2169 Views
Re: The Malfoys and Molly - 02/01/2011 10:35:47 AM 2172 Views
Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 1938 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 2058 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 2028 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 2065 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 2344 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 2077 Views

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