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Re: An epiphany, Gollum, wands, the fidelius charm, grief, love and a strange blurring Camilla Send a noteboard - 20/12/2010 07:32:48 PM
Does the taboo break all protective enchantments? And is that established? It seems like it does in the way they react to the Snatchers, but I cannot remember that being established beforehand. I know Ron says Kingsley was cornered, but that does not mean he was protected by anything.

I think it does, yes. I thought that Ron said it did. Could be wrong.


I couldn't find any mention of that.

The wand problem is finally made explicit by Ollivander, opening the way to the finale. I have some issues with this introduction of the taking of a wand. Considering how many times Harry has said "expelliarmus", there can hardly be anyone in the wizarding world still in control of their own wands.

Good point. It becomes very problematic when you consider the other fights between the children and Death Eaters. And I thought it might be for Harry's wand as well (book 4 in the graveyard) but I guess he snatched it back again so that fixed things.


Maybe. I am not convinced Rowling had this thought through properly from the start.
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I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 1985 Views
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As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 1678 Views
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Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 1021 Views
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Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 2142 Views
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I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 1997 Views
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On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 2089 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 2107 Views
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Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 2066 Views
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I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 2078 Views

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