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Roland00 Send a noteboard - 26/07/2011 03:46:54 PM

Theon being castrated by Ramsay.

Forgot to mention this one, which you did to me in this thread but earlier.
Brandon Stark likely being the father of Ashara's child.

Did not notice this and that caused a major :shocked: , then again Ashara is probably not going to be important to the main story again unless she is Septa Lemore (one of Young Griff's teachers that Tyrion has the hots for).

Ser Patrek's sigil being the bleeding star under which Azhor Azhai will be reborn (so much for the comet).

A good theory that I didn't notice, but I am of no opinion of what is going to happen to Jon now, I have no clue what Martin is planning with him.
Blackwood's son indicating that something is really, really wrong with Westeros' history and dates (reinforcing Samwell's earlier comments in ASoS-AFFC).

I noticed this but didn't think of it, I just figured this was Martin stating that Myth and Legend shouldn't be trusted if things are not written down, and even then they shouldn't be trusted.

Rickon and Osha being on Skagos (not sure why a lot of people think they're on the Neck; Skagos is the only place where we know cannibals live).

Shaggydog killing a unicorn on Skagos in Jon's wolf-dream.
Completely missed the skagos part and the unicorn part
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lol yep, definitely *NM* ironclad - 13/07/2011 08:12:42 AM 1172 Views
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One or two, but not all that long ones *NM* ironclad - 13/07/2011 02:57:12 PM 1212 Views
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Probably not. Werthead - 14/07/2011 09:19:03 AM 2284 Views
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Re: I think the two are mixed up. samgreenaway - 18/07/2011 02:10:29 AM 2043 Views
What made least sense for me as far as that is concerned... ironclad - 14/07/2011 11:51:20 AM 2180 Views
They didn't. Werthead - 14/07/2011 11:24:53 PM 2235 Views
I see ironclad - 15/07/2011 08:28:09 AM 2136 Views
Didn't Jon just announced Roland00 - 26/07/2011 02:51:07 AM 2089 Views
Something I totally missed first time through Werthead - 14/07/2011 09:40:33 AM 2511 Views
Re: Something I totally missed first time through Cannoli - 16/07/2011 01:24:23 AM 2419 Views
Yep, that's what he said/thought A Deathwatch Guard - 17/07/2011 05:02:32 AM 2247 Views
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Well that brings new meaning Roland00 - 26/07/2011 02:53:18 AM 2013 Views
I'm still not fully done, but about the Reek chapters... fionwe1987 - 14/07/2011 04:05:29 PM 2232 Views
Agreed ironclad - 14/07/2011 06:18:15 PM 2248 Views
There's another... fionwe1987 - 14/07/2011 07:16:11 PM 2044 Views
There's that... Legolas - 17/07/2011 01:12:33 AM 2077 Views
It's worse than that... fionwe1987 - 17/07/2011 01:26:50 AM 2120 Views
Torture is wrong, and those chapters kinda proved it. *NM* Roland00 - 26/07/2011 02:53:55 AM 1158 Views
GRRM completely shit the bed on Jon's arc within this book. That's the truth. Libby - 16/07/2011 12:51:08 AM 2300 Views
Having finished the book, my thoughts. (Spoilers) Variant - 16/07/2011 08:11:30 AM 2224 Views
Re: Having finished the book, my thoughts. (Spoilers) Zaphod - 17/07/2011 01:02:10 AM 2165 Views
Personally, I felt 'A Feast for Crows' was not only better written but more condensed. Libby - 17/07/2011 11:15:58 AM 2231 Views
Summed up like that there is no way to disagree with what you said ironclad - 17/07/2011 11:33:01 AM 2214 Views
You put words to my thoughts exactly. Sir Tybalt - 18/08/2011 09:17:09 PM 2078 Views
It should be re-titled A Jump with Sharks Tom - 17/07/2011 06:00:37 PM 2324 Views
Publishers are more interested in the bottom line. Werthead - 18/07/2011 12:31:56 AM 2101 Views
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I felt bummed by Sanderson's new series. everynametaken - 18/07/2011 05:25:09 AM 2156 Views
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You might like this quote from House of Leaves by Mark Z Danielewski. heartbreak - 11/08/2011 03:42:05 PM 2226 Views
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And on a different note entirely: is it me, or did the book need more proofreading? Legolas - 17/07/2011 07:39:15 PM 2099 Views
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Yeah, I agree. Stephen - 18/07/2011 05:59:58 PM 2133 Views
The book really shows it is AFFC part 2 Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:00:07 AM 2134 Views
No doubt, much like readers would've been more forgiving of aFfC if it'd been two years after SoS. Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:28:43 PM 2152 Views
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Yeah, I wished there was a way to move them in here! ironclad - 19/07/2011 01:42:51 PM 2054 Views
Me too... but going and complaining about them seems so lame, too. Legolas - 19/07/2011 07:34:47 PM 2046 Views
I agree with Jens, good balanced review. *NM* Legolas - 19/07/2011 07:50:13 PM 1141 Views
I think you let him off too easily. Tom - 20/07/2011 04:19:07 AM 2199 Views
It might be that I expected even more of a longeur than what happened Larry - 20/07/2011 05:24:50 PM 2146 Views
Your review is a little too generous (in my opinion) Libby - 20/07/2011 06:57:45 AM 2371 Views
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yeh, he is nice... *NM* aragornital - 20/07/2011 06:20:13 PM 1137 Views
Davos is probably my favourite Stephen - 20/07/2011 09:51:03 PM 1933 Views
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The six bodies fired by the trebuchet Stephen - 20/07/2011 10:36:16 PM 2139 Views
Yes, I was confused by that too. Legolas - 20/07/2011 10:53:35 PM 2088 Views
Probably pale mare victims. Seige warfare via plague Urza - 20/07/2011 11:23:10 PM 2114 Views
Yes, I considered that as well... Legolas - 20/07/2011 11:48:32 PM 2085 Views
Have Quentyn's two mates already been sent off a this point? ironclad - 21/07/2011 02:03:15 PM 2148 Views
That could be it. *NM* Stephen - 21/07/2011 01:43:16 PM 1048 Views
It's not six bodies, it's six trebuchets throwing corpses instead of stones DomA - 27/07/2011 01:03:51 AM 2165 Views
That's how I read it as well. Six trebuchets opening up. *NM* Michael - 11/08/2011 12:19:09 PM 1104 Views
Stannis ironclad - 21/07/2011 08:43:40 AM 2090 Views
It's entirely possible Stannis was killed Tom - 21/07/2011 02:09:10 PM 2161 Views
I highly doubt he's dead A Deathwatch Guard - 21/07/2011 07:29:59 PM 2142 Views
The bluff makes the most sense: if the Boltons beat Stannis, why does he ask for Theon & Jeyne? Cannoli - 22/07/2011 12:01:30 AM 2189 Views
Yeah... Urza - 22/07/2011 12:27:53 AM 2072 Views
The letter sounded like the ravings of a psychopath loosing control DomA - 27/07/2011 02:56:21 AM 2225 Views
The Aegon Twist. Something about this doesn't add up. Libby - 21/07/2011 10:43:43 PM 2169 Views
Re: The Aegon Twist. Something about this doesn't add up. Werthead - 22/07/2011 05:42:13 PM 2252 Views
Alternatively.. fionwe1987 - 22/07/2011 09:13:46 PM 2088 Views
Which gods do you think are "real" in Martin's world? Tom - 22/07/2011 04:32:39 PM 2144 Views
None of them. Werthead - 22/07/2011 06:25:19 PM 2044 Views
Is that personal opinion or based on something Martin said? *NM* Tom - 22/07/2011 06:37:57 PM 1137 Views
Opinion Werthead - 22/07/2011 07:43:16 PM 2085 Views
Regardless of whether or not they actually get involved, their existence (or not) is signficant. Tom - 23/07/2011 02:17:48 AM 1948 Views
I think there are some god's, just given different names. Same with the magic. fionwe1987 - 22/07/2011 09:24:51 PM 2059 Views
Lose the apostrophe in the subject line. Then: on what basis do you assume this? Tom - 23/07/2011 02:28:49 AM 2107 Views
You might want to stop wasting time correcting others typos. As for the gods... fionwe1987 - 23/07/2011 04:53:59 AM 1998 Views
You might want to stop making them. Particularly glaring ones like that. Tom - 23/07/2011 05:01:03 AM 2174 Views
A typo can't be "glaring"... fionwe1987 - 23/07/2011 08:08:51 AM 2057 Views
Sure it can. Glaring: conspicuous or obvious. Tom - 23/07/2011 03:52:57 PM 2048 Views
Morality stems from god? A Deathwatch Guard - 22/07/2011 10:47:59 PM 2059 Views
Of course it does Tom - 23/07/2011 02:26:50 AM 2034 Views
On second thought, let's address the issue directly. Tom - 23/07/2011 05:14:59 AM 2158 Views
Perhaps... A Deathwatch Guard - 24/07/2011 07:03:24 PM 2065 Views
Its simple... Urza - 24/07/2011 07:37:11 PM 2080 Views
I disagree... fionwe1987 - 25/07/2011 04:10:04 AM 2119 Views
Bullshit. Tom - 25/07/2011 05:44:41 AM 2005 Views
Re: Bullshit. fionwe1987 - 25/07/2011 06:27:09 AM 1927 Views
The Seven probably has more power and influence than any other religion though. Werthead - 25/07/2011 07:51:59 PM 1945 Views
In Westeros, but I always got the feeling the Free Cities and other places didn't much care for them A Deathwatch Guard - 26/07/2011 10:53:45 PM 2096 Views
Westeros is the biggest coherent civilisation in the ASoIaF world. Werthead - 27/07/2011 12:56:21 AM 2122 Views
Some thoughts... fionwe1987 - 25/07/2011 04:54:05 AM 2086 Views
It's not an objective morality. Tom - 25/07/2011 05:41:33 AM 2039 Views
Its not that simple... fionwe1987 - 25/07/2011 06:21:39 AM 2095 Views
I don't disagree with most of what you said. I just reach a different conclusion. Tom - 25/07/2011 01:57:31 PM 2009 Views
Well... fionwe1987 - 25/07/2011 05:02:45 PM 2031 Views
How then do you deal with the Euthyphro dilemma? Tim - 16/08/2011 01:43:18 PM 1892 Views
Re: Which gods do you think are "real" in Martin's world? aragornital - 25/07/2011 02:24:07 PM 1961 Views
Whats the best new POV Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:14:05 AM 2094 Views
Barristan Werthead - 26/07/2011 12:23:20 PM 2045 Views
Didn't Aeron "Damphair" Greyjoy also only have 2 POVs Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:56:57 PM 2142 Views
Agreed. *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:33:11 PM 1183 Views
thirded. Jessie - 27/07/2011 04:16:26 PM 1938 Views
Absolutely *NM* ironclad - 29/07/2011 02:31:54 AM 1249 Views
Things you missed till they were pointed out via others or via a reread Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:23:53 AM 2224 Views
A bit. Werthead - 26/07/2011 12:32:32 PM 2185 Views
Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:46:54 PM 2143 Views
Re: Werthead - 27/07/2011 12:43:43 AM 2117 Views
Martin doesn't have to do anything Roland00 - 27/07/2011 01:33:36 AM 2161 Views
Re: Martin doesn't have to do anything DomA - 27/07/2011 04:38:19 AM 2014 Views
The crone who prophesied the stallion who mounts the world saw the stallions face Roland00 - 27/07/2011 05:13:28 AM 2169 Views
Re: Martin doesn't have to do anything aragornital - 27/07/2011 08:58:55 AM 1935 Views
Re: DomA - 27/07/2011 04:27:18 AM 2165 Views
I like your theory. Jessie - 27/07/2011 04:35:22 PM 2191 Views
Interesting... hadn't noticed some of those either. Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:32:18 PM 2154 Views
Re: Interesting... hadn't noticed some of those either. Roland00 - 27/07/2011 02:00:42 AM 2024 Views
Eh? Elaine - 29/07/2011 04:44:17 PM 2169 Views
This is complicated. Werthead - 31/07/2011 10:43:15 PM 2384 Views
Wait...a woman crowned for beauty was the victorious mystery knight? Tom - 01/08/2011 03:00:49 AM 2055 Views
It is believed the Knight of the Laughing Tree is one of two people Roland00 - 01/08/2011 04:47:21 AM 2149 Views
Yup. Werthead - 02/08/2011 12:03:26 AM 1996 Views
Also... fionwe1987 - 02/08/2011 07:17:43 AM 2071 Views
And yet, my huge brain figures it out Elaine - 04/08/2011 04:20:06 PM 2075 Views
I've read this scene yesterday and I missed this... aragornital - 02/08/2011 07:55:35 AM 2071 Views
Allow me Elaine - 05/08/2011 02:14:15 PM 1960 Views
thanks *NM* aragornital - 07/08/2011 07:28:21 AM 1126 Views
I thought this was pretty clear HousealThor - 07/08/2011 05:18:54 PM 1980 Views
Hizdahr a Harpy? Innocent or Not? Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:36:56 AM 2370 Views
Interesting idea. Werthead - 26/07/2011 12:25:11 PM 2164 Views
Re: Interesting idea. Jessie - 27/07/2011 04:25:02 PM 2094 Views
What is happening with the Maesters subplot? Any new leads? Roland00 - 26/07/2011 04:13:27 PM 2088 Views
Re: What is happening with the Maesters subplot? Any new leads? Werthead - 27/07/2011 12:49:52 AM 2294 Views
Re: What is happening with the Maesters subplot? Any new leads? DomA - 27/07/2011 03:49:18 AM 2240 Views
Re: A Dance with Dragons discussion thread jwk - 29/07/2011 01:42:57 AM 2275 Views
Okay. I suck. jwk - 29/07/2011 01:50:56 AM 2033 Views
Let me rephrase that... jwk - 29/07/2011 01:54:07 AM 2013 Views
Jon Snow is definitely Azor Ahai. Kotagg - 29/07/2011 07:31:17 PM 2616 Views
Hmm ironclad - 31/07/2011 01:52:03 PM 2506 Views
you are correct Jim - 31/07/2011 11:08:39 PM 2092 Views
Yup. Werthead - 31/07/2011 10:49:34 PM 1951 Views
But Shireen is a dragon... fionwe1987 - 01/08/2011 12:22:16 AM 2086 Views
I'm uncertain about that Larry - 01/08/2011 05:35:18 AM 2073 Views
True, but I wouldn't read too much into that. Werthead - 01/08/2011 11:42:29 PM 2351 Views
Where did he say that? fionwe1987 - 02/08/2011 07:18:39 AM 2210 Views
In interviews Werthead - 02/08/2011 02:21:28 PM 2169 Views
A little thought about Jon... aragornital - 02/08/2011 08:02:34 AM 2226 Views
Excellent point. Werthead - 02/08/2011 02:22:22 PM 2164 Views
Am I the only one who thinks... The Doctor - 09/08/2011 05:16:46 PM 2191 Views
I think Martin's gonna stick to Bran being the only one who does that ironclad - 10/08/2011 09:25:12 AM 2265 Views
It's possible, the problem is Jon's warging skill isn't all that well developed. Libby - 10/08/2011 10:53:32 PM 2051 Views
Anyone have any thoughts as to the purpose of Arya's storyline? Chas - 14/08/2011 06:28:09 PM 2097 Views
She's being trained as an assassin, so the question is who is she going to kill? Werthead - 16/08/2011 01:43:12 AM 2018 Views
Jon? Sir Tybalt - 18/08/2011 09:59:03 PM 2074 Views
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