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The crone who prophesied the stallion who mounts the world saw the stallions face Roland00 Send a noteboard - 27/07/2011 05:13:28 AM
The crone who prophesied the stallion who mounts the world saw the stallions face, heard the beat of his horse's hooves, and mention that the prince will have bells woven into his hair.

I am sorry but I think that makes it pretty clear that he is going to be human and not a dragon.
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A Dance with Dragons discussion thread Legolas - 11/07/2011 10:48:23 PM 6485 Views
Okay, first impressions. Basically spoiler-free, I suppose. ironclad - 11/07/2011 11:40:31 PM 2051 Views
I have it! *NM* fionwe1987 - 12/07/2011 05:42:27 AM 1108 Views
A general question to get the discussion started: will two more books be enough? RandAllThor - 12/07/2011 02:22:52 PM 2249 Views
A very good question *major spoilers, then* ironclad - 12/07/2011 02:55:05 PM 2217 Views
Oh, come on. If anyone can do it, Martin can. Tom - 15/07/2011 03:48:27 AM 1899 Views
It'll be tight. Werthead - 12/07/2011 04:32:39 PM 2211 Views
What does "resurrection-as-PWWP Jon" mean? Got it - Prince Who Was Promised! Sir Tybalt - 18/08/2011 08:59:44 PM 2112 Views
No but I think 3 will be possible Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:15:02 AM 2034 Views
what is Purple Wedding? *NM* aragornital - 27/07/2011 08:37:04 AM 1000 Views
Joffrey and Margaery wedding Roland00 - 27/07/2011 04:26:04 PM 2062 Views
Hero of the book? Werthead - 12/07/2011 10:12:02 PM 2365 Views
Lord Manderly gets my vote. RandAllThor - 12/07/2011 10:41:19 PM 2164 Views
Re: Hero of the book? ironclad - 12/07/2011 10:43:20 PM 2029 Views
Re: Hero of the book? ClubCaved - 12/07/2011 11:50:29 PM 2030 Views
Ohh, so that was what that was about. Legolas - 17/07/2011 07:08:19 PM 2056 Views
That's what I thought too. Jessie - 25/07/2011 01:48:50 AM 2062 Views
Victorian Greyjoy = Hero of the book *NM* Urza - 21/07/2011 06:20:25 AM 1180 Views
Barristan should be renamed as Ser Grandfather, you do not mess with Ser Grandfather *NM* Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:32:09 AM 1155 Views
Asshole of the book? ironclad - 12/07/2011 10:46:10 PM 2234 Views
Agreed. Werthead - 12/07/2011 11:18:07 PM 2163 Views
Seconded. He'd probably make my short list of Assholes of the Series to date. *NM* RandAllThor - 12/07/2011 11:25:04 PM 1050 Views
Yeah, little doubt there. Legolas - 17/07/2011 07:09:53 PM 2012 Views
Seriously... Urza - 18/07/2011 03:07:47 AM 2011 Views
Daenerys Targaryen & lifetime achievement award to Lord Rickard Stark Cannoli - 17/08/2011 12:38:40 AM 1956 Views
Idiot of the book. Werthead - 12/07/2011 11:21:51 PM 2269 Views
lol yep, definitely *NM* ironclad - 13/07/2011 08:12:42 AM 1116 Views
Re: Idiot of the book. Zaphod - 17/07/2011 12:42:20 AM 2133 Views
I think readers are being too hard on Quentyn, If anything I think Doran derserves more mocking. Libby - 17/07/2011 01:09:35 AM 2435 Views
Wait... no she doesn't! fionwe1987 - 17/07/2011 01:29:52 AM 2031 Views
She thinks both Werthead - 18/07/2011 12:22:59 AM 1968 Views
So... Legolas - 17/07/2011 07:18:24 PM 1990 Views
No, it's him. Werthead - 18/07/2011 12:25:33 AM 1974 Views
Is there any hot sex scenes? I won't be able to read it for a while *NM* Dark Knight - 13/07/2011 02:35:49 PM 1185 Views
One or two, but not all that long ones *NM* ironclad - 13/07/2011 02:57:12 PM 1148 Views
Great Ending ClubCaved - 14/07/2011 01:21:53 AM 2265 Views
Really? ironclad - 14/07/2011 09:36:01 AM 2196 Views
Re: Really? Werthead - 14/07/2011 09:38:34 AM 1850 Views
Re: Great Ending samgreenaway - 18/07/2011 02:05:00 AM 1994 Views
YES! Larry - 14/07/2011 02:38:48 AM 1829 Views
Sorry for the n00b reply, sentiments still apply Stephen - 16/07/2011 07:27:43 PM 1995 Views
Re: Sorry for the n00b reply, sentiments still apply Zaphod - 17/07/2011 12:45:52 AM 1976 Views
I don't know what to think... (spoiler) aragornital - 14/07/2011 08:59:39 AM 2189 Views
Probably not. Werthead - 14/07/2011 09:19:03 AM 2172 Views
Re: Probably not. aragornital - 14/07/2011 03:57:55 PM 2015 Views
I think the two are mixed up. Werthead - 14/07/2011 11:23:06 PM 2089 Views
Re: I think the two are mixed up. samgreenaway - 18/07/2011 02:10:29 AM 1926 Views
What made least sense for me as far as that is concerned... ironclad - 14/07/2011 11:51:20 AM 2071 Views
They didn't. Werthead - 14/07/2011 11:24:53 PM 2104 Views
I see ironclad - 15/07/2011 08:28:09 AM 2025 Views
Didn't Jon just announced Roland00 - 26/07/2011 02:51:07 AM 1987 Views
Something I totally missed first time through Werthead - 14/07/2011 09:40:33 AM 2377 Views
Re: Something I totally missed first time through Cannoli - 16/07/2011 01:24:23 AM 2297 Views
Yep, that's what he said/thought A Deathwatch Guard - 17/07/2011 05:02:32 AM 2120 Views
Re: Something I totally missed first time through Jessie - 23/07/2011 04:14:38 PM 1959 Views
Well that brings new meaning Roland00 - 26/07/2011 02:53:18 AM 1879 Views
I'm still not fully done, but about the Reek chapters... fionwe1987 - 14/07/2011 04:05:29 PM 2106 Views
Agreed ironclad - 14/07/2011 06:18:15 PM 2125 Views
There's another... fionwe1987 - 14/07/2011 07:16:11 PM 1929 Views
There's that... Legolas - 17/07/2011 01:12:33 AM 1981 Views
It's worse than that... fionwe1987 - 17/07/2011 01:26:50 AM 2002 Views
Torture is wrong, and those chapters kinda proved it. *NM* Roland00 - 26/07/2011 02:53:55 AM 1091 Views
GRRM completely shit the bed on Jon's arc within this book. That's the truth. Libby - 16/07/2011 12:51:08 AM 2158 Views
Having finished the book, my thoughts. (Spoilers) Variant - 16/07/2011 08:11:30 AM 2102 Views
Re: Having finished the book, my thoughts. (Spoilers) Zaphod - 17/07/2011 01:02:10 AM 2055 Views
Personally, I felt 'A Feast for Crows' was not only better written but more condensed. Libby - 17/07/2011 11:15:58 AM 2107 Views
Summed up like that there is no way to disagree with what you said ironclad - 17/07/2011 11:33:01 AM 2089 Views
You put words to my thoughts exactly. Sir Tybalt - 18/08/2011 09:17:09 PM 1964 Views
It should be re-titled A Jump with Sharks Tom - 17/07/2011 06:00:37 PM 2164 Views
Publishers are more interested in the bottom line. Werthead - 18/07/2011 12:31:56 AM 1940 Views
Sadly, I am likely overestimating the intelligence of the readers. Tom - 18/07/2011 03:05:12 AM 2171 Views
I felt bummed by Sanderson's new series. everynametaken - 18/07/2011 05:25:09 AM 2004 Views
I bought that book but have yet to read it. Tom - 18/07/2011 01:09:15 PM 1963 Views
Re: I bought that book but have yet to read it. Zach - 20/07/2011 06:45:46 AM 1972 Views
You might like this quote from House of Leaves by Mark Z Danielewski. heartbreak - 11/08/2011 03:42:05 PM 2077 Views
I'm afraid I have to agree with what seems to be the majority opinion... Legolas - 17/07/2011 07:35:47 PM 2103 Views
And on a different note entirely: is it me, or did the book need more proofreading? Legolas - 17/07/2011 07:39:15 PM 1981 Views
Re: And on a different note entirely: is it me, or did the book need more proofreading? samgreenaway - 18/07/2011 02:17:41 AM 2144 Views
Yeah, I agree. Stephen - 18/07/2011 05:59:58 PM 2036 Views
The book really shows it is AFFC part 2 Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:00:07 AM 2014 Views
No doubt, much like readers would've been more forgiving of aFfC if it'd been two years after SoS. Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:28:43 PM 2039 Views
Am I The Only One In Love With Arya's Chapters? *spoilers maybe* samgreenaway - 18/07/2011 02:22:00 AM 2018 Views
I enjoyed them, very solid chapters. Libby - 18/07/2011 12:50:43 PM 2057 Views
Unlike others, I won't start a separate thread to express my thoughts Larry - 19/07/2011 11:21:17 AM 2166 Views
Yeah, I wished there was a way to move them in here! ironclad - 19/07/2011 01:42:51 PM 1931 Views
Me too... but going and complaining about them seems so lame, too. Legolas - 19/07/2011 07:34:47 PM 1933 Views
I agree with Jens, good balanced review. *NM* Legolas - 19/07/2011 07:50:13 PM 1076 Views
I think you let him off too easily. Tom - 20/07/2011 04:19:07 AM 2065 Views
It might be that I expected even more of a longeur than what happened Larry - 20/07/2011 05:24:50 PM 2023 Views
Your review is a little too generous (in my opinion) Libby - 20/07/2011 06:57:45 AM 2237 Views
I find myself both depressed and let down... Zach - 20/07/2011 06:37:16 AM 2357 Views
Am I the only one who really likes... ironclad - 20/07/2011 06:04:00 PM 2189 Views
yeh, he is nice... *NM* aragornital - 20/07/2011 06:20:13 PM 1069 Views
Davos is probably my favourite Stephen - 20/07/2011 09:51:03 PM 1823 Views
I have to disagree in regards to Penny, she's a plot device and an annoying one at that. Variant - 21/07/2011 01:15:33 AM 2149 Views
Re: I have to disagree in regards to Penny, she's a plot device and an annoying one at that. Timthetrolloc - 21/07/2011 09:33:00 AM 1981 Views
The six bodies fired by the trebuchet Stephen - 20/07/2011 10:36:16 PM 2025 Views
Yes, I was confused by that too. Legolas - 20/07/2011 10:53:35 PM 1974 Views
Probably pale mare victims. Seige warfare via plague Urza - 20/07/2011 11:23:10 PM 2002 Views
Yes, I considered that as well... Legolas - 20/07/2011 11:48:32 PM 1957 Views
Have Quentyn's two mates already been sent off a this point? ironclad - 21/07/2011 02:03:15 PM 2020 Views
That could be it. *NM* Stephen - 21/07/2011 01:43:16 PM 989 Views
It's not six bodies, it's six trebuchets throwing corpses instead of stones DomA - 27/07/2011 01:03:51 AM 2066 Views
That's how I read it as well. Six trebuchets opening up. *NM* Michael - 11/08/2011 12:19:09 PM 1059 Views
Stannis ironclad - 21/07/2011 08:43:40 AM 1981 Views
It's entirely possible Stannis was killed Tom - 21/07/2011 02:09:10 PM 2058 Views
I highly doubt he's dead A Deathwatch Guard - 21/07/2011 07:29:59 PM 2017 Views
The bluff makes the most sense: if the Boltons beat Stannis, why does he ask for Theon & Jeyne? Cannoli - 22/07/2011 12:01:30 AM 2075 Views
Yeah... Urza - 22/07/2011 12:27:53 AM 1967 Views
The letter sounded like the ravings of a psychopath loosing control DomA - 27/07/2011 02:56:21 AM 2118 Views
The Aegon Twist. Something about this doesn't add up. Libby - 21/07/2011 10:43:43 PM 2055 Views
Re: The Aegon Twist. Something about this doesn't add up. Werthead - 22/07/2011 05:42:13 PM 2142 Views
Alternatively.. fionwe1987 - 22/07/2011 09:13:46 PM 1981 Views
Which gods do you think are "real" in Martin's world? Tom - 22/07/2011 04:32:39 PM 2037 Views
None of them. Werthead - 22/07/2011 06:25:19 PM 1931 Views
Is that personal opinion or based on something Martin said? *NM* Tom - 22/07/2011 06:37:57 PM 1071 Views
Opinion Werthead - 22/07/2011 07:43:16 PM 1971 Views
Regardless of whether or not they actually get involved, their existence (or not) is signficant. Tom - 23/07/2011 02:17:48 AM 1838 Views
I think there are some god's, just given different names. Same with the magic. fionwe1987 - 22/07/2011 09:24:51 PM 1955 Views
Lose the apostrophe in the subject line. Then: on what basis do you assume this? Tom - 23/07/2011 02:28:49 AM 1989 Views
You might want to stop wasting time correcting others typos. As for the gods... fionwe1987 - 23/07/2011 04:53:59 AM 1870 Views
You might want to stop making them. Particularly glaring ones like that. Tom - 23/07/2011 05:01:03 AM 2047 Views
A typo can't be "glaring"... fionwe1987 - 23/07/2011 08:08:51 AM 1929 Views
Sure it can. Glaring: conspicuous or obvious. Tom - 23/07/2011 03:52:57 PM 1938 Views
Morality stems from god? A Deathwatch Guard - 22/07/2011 10:47:59 PM 1941 Views
Of course it does Tom - 23/07/2011 02:26:50 AM 1917 Views
On second thought, let's address the issue directly. Tom - 23/07/2011 05:14:59 AM 2012 Views
Perhaps... A Deathwatch Guard - 24/07/2011 07:03:24 PM 1957 Views
Its simple... Urza - 24/07/2011 07:37:11 PM 1965 Views
I disagree... fionwe1987 - 25/07/2011 04:10:04 AM 2017 Views
Bullshit. Tom - 25/07/2011 05:44:41 AM 1901 Views
Re: Bullshit. fionwe1987 - 25/07/2011 06:27:09 AM 1809 Views
The Seven probably has more power and influence than any other religion though. Werthead - 25/07/2011 07:51:59 PM 1856 Views
In Westeros, but I always got the feeling the Free Cities and other places didn't much care for them A Deathwatch Guard - 26/07/2011 10:53:45 PM 1970 Views
Westeros is the biggest coherent civilisation in the ASoIaF world. Werthead - 27/07/2011 12:56:21 AM 1991 Views
Some thoughts... fionwe1987 - 25/07/2011 04:54:05 AM 1928 Views
It's not an objective morality. Tom - 25/07/2011 05:41:33 AM 1916 Views
Its not that simple... fionwe1987 - 25/07/2011 06:21:39 AM 1974 Views
I don't disagree with most of what you said. I just reach a different conclusion. Tom - 25/07/2011 01:57:31 PM 1907 Views
Well... fionwe1987 - 25/07/2011 05:02:45 PM 1922 Views
How then do you deal with the Euthyphro dilemma? Tim - 16/08/2011 01:43:18 PM 1779 Views
Re: Which gods do you think are "real" in Martin's world? aragornital - 25/07/2011 02:24:07 PM 1846 Views
Whats the best new POV Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:14:05 AM 1970 Views
Barristan Werthead - 26/07/2011 12:23:20 PM 1931 Views
Didn't Aeron "Damphair" Greyjoy also only have 2 POVs Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:56:57 PM 2003 Views
Agreed. *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:33:11 PM 1111 Views
thirded. Jessie - 27/07/2011 04:16:26 PM 1812 Views
Absolutely *NM* ironclad - 29/07/2011 02:31:54 AM 1196 Views
Things you missed till they were pointed out via others or via a reread Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:23:53 AM 2107 Views
A bit. Werthead - 26/07/2011 12:32:32 PM 2078 Views
Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:46:54 PM 2022 Views
Re: Werthead - 27/07/2011 12:43:43 AM 1958 Views
Martin doesn't have to do anything Roland00 - 27/07/2011 01:33:36 AM 2039 Views
Re: Martin doesn't have to do anything DomA - 27/07/2011 04:38:19 AM 1912 Views
The crone who prophesied the stallion who mounts the world saw the stallions face Roland00 - 27/07/2011 05:13:28 AM 2057 Views
Re: Martin doesn't have to do anything aragornital - 27/07/2011 08:58:55 AM 1841 Views
Re: DomA - 27/07/2011 04:27:18 AM 2029 Views
I like your theory. Jessie - 27/07/2011 04:35:22 PM 2052 Views
Interesting... hadn't noticed some of those either. Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:32:18 PM 2040 Views
Re: Interesting... hadn't noticed some of those either. Roland00 - 27/07/2011 02:00:42 AM 1930 Views
Eh? Elaine - 29/07/2011 04:44:17 PM 2045 Views
This is complicated. Werthead - 31/07/2011 10:43:15 PM 2247 Views
Wait...a woman crowned for beauty was the victorious mystery knight? Tom - 01/08/2011 03:00:49 AM 1944 Views
It is believed the Knight of the Laughing Tree is one of two people Roland00 - 01/08/2011 04:47:21 AM 2005 Views
Yup. Werthead - 02/08/2011 12:03:26 AM 1879 Views
Also... fionwe1987 - 02/08/2011 07:17:43 AM 1977 Views
And yet, my huge brain figures it out Elaine - 04/08/2011 04:20:06 PM 1943 Views
I've read this scene yesterday and I missed this... aragornital - 02/08/2011 07:55:35 AM 1970 Views
Allow me Elaine - 05/08/2011 02:14:15 PM 1824 Views
thanks *NM* aragornital - 07/08/2011 07:28:21 AM 1059 Views
I thought this was pretty clear HousealThor - 07/08/2011 05:18:54 PM 1859 Views
Hizdahr a Harpy? Innocent or Not? Roland00 - 26/07/2011 03:36:56 AM 2247 Views
Interesting idea. Werthead - 26/07/2011 12:25:11 PM 2055 Views
Re: Interesting idea. Jessie - 27/07/2011 04:25:02 PM 1982 Views
What is happening with the Maesters subplot? Any new leads? Roland00 - 26/07/2011 04:13:27 PM 1973 Views
Re: What is happening with the Maesters subplot? Any new leads? Werthead - 27/07/2011 12:49:52 AM 2177 Views
Re: What is happening with the Maesters subplot? Any new leads? DomA - 27/07/2011 03:49:18 AM 2076 Views
Re: A Dance with Dragons discussion thread jwk - 29/07/2011 01:42:57 AM 2163 Views
Okay. I suck. jwk - 29/07/2011 01:50:56 AM 1899 Views
Let me rephrase that... jwk - 29/07/2011 01:54:07 AM 1881 Views
Jon Snow is definitely Azor Ahai. Kotagg - 29/07/2011 07:31:17 PM 2497 Views
Hmm ironclad - 31/07/2011 01:52:03 PM 2400 Views
you are correct Jim - 31/07/2011 11:08:39 PM 1973 Views
Yup. Werthead - 31/07/2011 10:49:34 PM 1798 Views
But Shireen is a dragon... fionwe1987 - 01/08/2011 12:22:16 AM 1989 Views
I'm uncertain about that Larry - 01/08/2011 05:35:18 AM 1958 Views
True, but I wouldn't read too much into that. Werthead - 01/08/2011 11:42:29 PM 2234 Views
Where did he say that? fionwe1987 - 02/08/2011 07:18:39 AM 2107 Views
In interviews Werthead - 02/08/2011 02:21:28 PM 2061 Views
A little thought about Jon... aragornital - 02/08/2011 08:02:34 AM 2118 Views
Excellent point. Werthead - 02/08/2011 02:22:22 PM 2036 Views
Am I the only one who thinks... The Doctor - 09/08/2011 05:16:46 PM 2073 Views
I think Martin's gonna stick to Bran being the only one who does that ironclad - 10/08/2011 09:25:12 AM 2139 Views
It's possible, the problem is Jon's warging skill isn't all that well developed. Libby - 10/08/2011 10:53:32 PM 1927 Views
Anyone have any thoughts as to the purpose of Arya's storyline? Chas - 14/08/2011 06:28:09 PM 1973 Views
She's being trained as an assassin, so the question is who is she going to kill? Werthead - 16/08/2011 01:43:12 AM 1909 Views
Jon? Sir Tybalt - 18/08/2011 09:59:03 PM 1954 Views
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