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House Banners/Sigils imlad Send a noteboard - 21/08/2012 04:56:07 PM
You disregard the banners and pageantry, much like I did the first time through GoT, because like you I could never remember the 20 different knights names in the tourney or their banners. But in that long listing paragraph is the introduction to so many of our sub-plots for the next four novels, which Martin does a great job of interweaving with the Starks and Lannisters (two of which you will love wholeheartedly before book 5 and one you will continue to loathe).


I'd go so far as to say that in at least one instance, a House's banner/sigil is actually a clue to a plot point in a later book.

And I'm not talking about the symbolism inherent in the scene where they find the dire wolf pups (where a stag and a dire wolf brought each other down).
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A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin Camilla - 13/08/2012 10:48:37 PM 8696 Views
Fascinating. Legolas - 13/08/2012 11:40:22 PM 2247 Views
Re: Fascinating. Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:23:13 AM 2056 Views
Mainly the names. Werthead - 17/08/2012 12:07:21 AM 1989 Views
Regarding Daenerys as Henry Tudor Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:36:37 AM 2107 Views
Not really. Legolas - 14/08/2012 07:01:36 PM 2240 Views
Shocking Camilla - 15/08/2012 06:49:18 AM 2052 Views
On the Rape issue.... djwilson300 - 14/08/2012 01:19:35 AM 2132 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... dacole - 14/08/2012 02:02:42 AM 1981 Views
Firstly, Camilla is a she. Secondly, though I won't speak for her, regarding the rape in the novels, Ghavrel - 14/08/2012 02:23:19 AM 2119 Views
When does he use rape in an erotic manner? A Deathwatch Guard - 14/08/2012 05:48:59 AM 1961 Views
like all the time. Foxhead - 14/09/2012 04:45:42 PM 2066 Views
Camilla is indeed a she. Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:18:58 AM 2028 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. dacole - 14/08/2012 04:37:17 PM 2020 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. Camilla - 15/08/2012 06:39:31 AM 2119 Views
I for one never saw any of the rapes as erotic imlad - 21/08/2012 05:04:11 PM 2230 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:17:55 AM 1962 Views
How is that a violent rape? At worst it would be statutory rape. Cannoli - 17/08/2012 11:53:44 AM 2011 Views
The wedding night is statutory. I would describe the later rapes as fairly violent. Camilla - 17/08/2012 12:13:26 PM 2074 Views
That was her only sex scene, until she induces him to have outdoor sex to get pregnant Cannoli - 17/08/2012 07:20:09 PM 2045 Views
It is not necessary to provide a scene Camilla - 17/08/2012 10:49:20 PM 1965 Views
I believe that what is happening here is called confirmation bias *NM* Kotagg - 21/08/2012 06:23:38 PM 1117 Views
House Banners/Sigils imlad - 21/08/2012 04:56:07 PM 2001 Views
Re: A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin dacole - 14/08/2012 02:08:59 AM 1897 Views
Re: A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:25:11 AM 2015 Views
I think you misread one part Dark Knight - 14/08/2012 04:51:34 PM 2190 Views
I think that the Rhaegar and Lyanna stuff does look like rape in the first book Stephen - 14/08/2012 08:10:27 PM 1964 Views
"Looks like" is this case meaning "explicitly stated to be that way"? Cannoli - 17/08/2012 11:56:48 AM 1929 Views
Currently kicking myself Camilla - 15/08/2012 06:43:36 AM 2159 Views
Re: Currently kicking myself Stephen - 16/08/2012 10:11:01 AM 1997 Views
what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit... temeraire - 15/08/2012 01:21:38 AM 1930 Views
Re: what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit... Camilla - 15/08/2012 07:39:24 AM 2133 Views
philippa gregory co-authored a book "the women of the cousins' war" - it was very interesting temeraire - 16/08/2012 07:54:50 PM 1978 Views
Wait...why would you waste time reading this fluff series when it's out on TV? Tom - 16/08/2012 12:10:32 AM 2075 Views
Trollolololololololllll *NM* Kotagg - 16/08/2012 01:02:22 AM 927 Views
Se noteboard. *NM* Camilla - 16/08/2012 06:29:39 AM 999 Views
Game, set, and match *NM* Praziquantel - 18/08/2012 03:50:38 PM 977 Views
I always liked the banners and pageantry - it creates an interesting contrast... lord-of-shadow - 16/08/2012 11:52:40 PM 1879 Views
Re: I always liked the banners and pageantry - it creates an interesting contrast... Camilla - 17/08/2012 06:33:24 AM 2050 Views
I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better Werthead - 17/08/2012 12:20:16 AM 2066 Views
Re: I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better Camilla - 17/08/2012 06:40:12 AM 1952 Views
I think it messed it up by showing forced intercourse without the verbal consent Drogo DID obtain Cannoli - 17/08/2012 12:07:14 PM 2024 Views
I still find it difficult to read it as anything other than a coerced consent Stephen - 17/08/2012 01:08:15 PM 1886 Views
A perpetrator-less crime then. Cannoli - 17/08/2012 07:26:26 PM 2021 Views
Exactly! I'm on board, Cannoli. Kotagg - 18/08/2012 07:45:56 PM 1875 Views
You are missing the point. Camilla - 18/08/2012 11:11:33 PM 1995 Views
Re: You are missing the point. Werthead - 19/08/2012 01:25:30 PM 2056 Views
Re: You are missing the point. Camilla - 19/08/2012 01:40:11 PM 2003 Views
So, you're saying that Juliet was raped by Romeo??? imlad - 21/08/2012 05:24:56 PM 2067 Views
The later books do add more context and change some of this snoopcester - 19/08/2012 12:08:49 AM 1922 Views
Re: The later books do add more context and change some of this Camilla - 19/08/2012 07:27:59 AM 1932 Views
That makes sense snoopcester - 19/08/2012 02:35:36 PM 1719 Views
Jesus Christ another fucking thread about rape and fantasy. Dan - 19/08/2012 01:47:43 AM 1220 Views
Perhaps if reading other people's views makes you so angry, you should avoid reading them? *NM* snoopcester - 19/08/2012 02:37:03 PM 1033 Views
High blood pressure can kill, I hear. *NM* Camilla - 19/08/2012 03:33:14 PM 1089 Views
Nonsense. nossy - 19/08/2012 03:33:39 PM 994 Views
Fixed it for you. Dan - 19/08/2012 08:22:18 PM 1082 Views
Oh, but that takes us back to snoop being right, and I'm sorry, but I just cannot abide that. nossy - 19/08/2012 10:56:10 PM 1038 Views
Shake the sand out of your vagina bitch. *NM* everynametaken - 20/08/2012 06:35:32 AM 1002 Views
Gosh, this is really turning into something fun. nossy - 20/08/2012 07:15:01 AM 1149 Views
Here I was about to make a "whee misogyny" post. I never get to have fun. *NM* Ghavrel - 20/08/2012 09:09:04 AM 881 Views
Huh. I just came to the odd realization... Legolas - 20/08/2012 08:29:56 PM 1080 Views
Don't lock it! Dan - 21/08/2012 05:11:34 AM 1063 Views
Yes, I'm aware, or I might have locked it already. Legolas - 21/08/2012 06:17:29 PM 942 Views
I'd ask that you do lock it. Stephen - 21/08/2012 10:00:48 PM 1012 Views
Fair enough. *NM* Legolas - 22/08/2012 06:26:04 PM 924 Views
I may join you Camilla - 20/08/2012 10:14:50 PM 1087 Views
COME AT ME BRO *NM* Dan - 21/08/2012 05:09:34 AM 944 Views
The interesting part is... ? - 28/08/2012 01:39:49 AM 1851 Views
That is the best written and most insightful review of that book I have read random thoughts - 01/09/2012 05:38:00 PM 1961 Views
I forgot that I was supposed to read all threads to watch out for Bad Behaviour. Rebekah - 01/09/2012 11:09:52 PM 2162 Views
i'm rereading the series now and yeah there is a LOT of rape Foxhead - 14/09/2012 04:38:27 PM 2522 Views
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