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wait! there's somebody "dirtier" than Piers Anthony or Philip Jose Farmer??? imlad Send a noteboard - 03/12/2009 04:00:28 PM
Seriously? And how did it manage to not get labeled pornography?? :smirk: I mean, come on, those two, and now that I think about it, the older Robert Heinlein were (well, ARE in Anthony's case) pretty damned dirty minded old men!!

He could very well be said to be a writer of specultive fiction. On the whole you are right, but sometimes philosophy can be best exeplified by thought experiments. If these thought experiments aren't lessened by turning out as novels.
Houellebecq, for example, uses cloning and genetic engineering as a tool to show his beliefs about the atomisation of society, the break up of the tradition family unit.
btw he is the dirtiest bastard I've ever read.
Death to the Regressives of the GOP and the TeaParty. No mercy for Conservatives. Burn them all at the stake for the hateful satanists they are.
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In Support of Other Fiction Tom - 01/12/2009 09:06:14 PM 2017 Views
Rebekah - 01/12/2009 09:22:56 PM 1093 Views
Re: Tom - 01/12/2009 09:28:04 PM 1058 Views
you shouldn't feel the need to defend a non SF/F suggestion, just don't imlad - 03/12/2009 03:34:28 PM 1081 Views
Wow...we were just Santified *NM* Tom - 03/12/2009 09:16:21 PM 535 Views
Well, let me offer a diverging view on the topic of speculative fiction. jh - 01/12/2009 09:46:35 PM 989 Views
I would counter that the stripping away removes a level of reality. Tom - 01/12/2009 10:05:28 PM 1065 Views
That's a Slippery Slope Because You Could Argue On the Same Basis That All Fiction Does That. The Name With No Man - 01/12/2009 11:34:34 PM 1127 Views
I don't see the slippery slope, but rather, a confirmation of my original point. Tom - 02/12/2009 01:41:24 AM 1071 Views
perhaps some university will do a study imlad - 03/12/2009 03:55:54 PM 1026 Views
I'd like to see it Tom - 03/12/2009 09:15:12 PM 1081 Views
I'll get to it once I finish my thesis Camilla - 03/12/2009 09:56:29 PM 1014 Views
If it looks like crap and smells like crap... Tom - 03/12/2009 10:04:15 PM 1048 Views
I Think I'll Post a Thread on This. The Name With No Man - 03/12/2009 06:47:05 PM 982 Views
I'd like to see it. Tom - 03/12/2009 09:23:07 PM 1044 Views
Regarding depth in Jordan Camilla - 03/12/2009 09:31:19 PM 1056 Views
I was thinking about that too Tom - 03/12/2009 10:05:40 PM 1025 Views
Re: I was thinking about that too Camilla - 03/12/2009 10:09:26 PM 1121 Views
Destroying the Wheel is meaningless. Tom - 03/12/2009 10:18:08 PM 1009 Views
Re: Destroying the Wheel is meaningless. Camilla - 03/12/2009 10:30:15 PM 1042 Views
It would. Destroying the Wheel would likely make him a Buddhist. Tom - 03/12/2009 10:51:17 PM 1022 Views
I Totally Missed That. Joel - 04/12/2009 10:45:56 PM 1098 Views
Re: I Totally Missed That. Camilla - 04/12/2009 10:47:59 PM 1085 Views
I Don't Believe It Cursory, But Comparative. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 11:29:36 PM 1169 Views
Publication bookend Y2K? Camilla - 05/12/2009 10:36:01 AM 1079 Views
They're Thick Bookends. The Name With No Man - 05/12/2009 06:12:06 PM 1034 Views
I'll Try to Have It Up Tomorrow Early. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 11:24:18 PM 1125 Views
Re: Well, let me offer a diverging view on the topic of speculative fiction. Camilla - 02/12/2009 12:28:30 AM 1048 Views
I like it. Ghavrel - 01/12/2009 10:28:48 PM 1048 Views
Thank you! Tom - 02/12/2009 01:43:05 AM 1196 Views
I find Michel Houellebecq to be one of the most intriguing writers of our time AgentOrange - 01/12/2009 11:14:05 PM 1135 Views
And, in recent memory, Orwell was a first-rate writer. Tom - 02/12/2009 01:44:29 AM 1131 Views
wait! there's somebody "dirtier" than Piers Anthony or Philip Jose Farmer??? imlad - 03/12/2009 04:00:28 PM 1087 Views
PJF is dirty? rebelaessedai - 04/12/2009 12:16:12 AM 967 Views
Nice post. Legolas - 02/12/2009 12:03:09 AM 1135 Views
Perhaps you're right. Tom - 02/12/2009 01:47:10 AM 1013 Views
In its entirety? No. Legolas - 02/12/2009 02:00:10 PM 1052 Views
I agree! Dragonsworn - 02/12/2009 12:17:10 AM 1256 Views
Thank you! Tom - 02/12/2009 01:50:22 AM 951 Views
I guess I'll break my silence after almost a month and a half... Larry - 02/12/2009 12:23:07 AM 1148 Views
Popcorn? Camilla - 02/12/2009 12:31:44 AM 1071 Views
Yes Larry - 02/12/2009 12:39:10 AM 1121 Views
Lovecraft? Camilla - 02/12/2009 12:51:55 AM 1115 Views
Re-read what I said Larry - 02/12/2009 12:55:08 AM 1183 Views
aahh Camilla - 02/12/2009 09:26:40 AM 1039 Views
I'm glad I could drive you from your Carthusian retreat, Larry Tom - 02/12/2009 01:58:49 AM 1069 Views
It won't last for long - have too many things still to deal with in my life Larry - 02/12/2009 02:36:15 AM 1068 Views
That's too bad. I'll have to learn monasterial sign language to continue a dialogue. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:49:01 AM 1024 Views
Well, I understand two out of those three languages Larry - 02/12/2009 03:56:00 AM 1057 Views
Larry, please tell me you weren't... imlad - 03/12/2009 04:33:32 PM 915 Views
I concur Camilla - 02/12/2009 12:27:13 AM 1022 Views
I like your framing of the issue (and Shannara is the Taco Bell of writing). Tom - 02/12/2009 02:03:51 AM 1085 Views
Thank you Camilla - 02/12/2009 09:30:42 AM 1037 Views
more like the mom&pop greasy-spoon diner of writing *NM* imlad - 03/12/2009 05:00:21 PM 498 Views
I'm going to put this in my sig, if you don't mind. Ghavrel - 02/12/2009 03:31:13 AM 1109 Views
hehehe Camilla - 02/12/2009 09:31:28 AM 997 Views
Am i the only one who reads books for fun? Wibble - 02/12/2009 12:33:52 AM 1138 Views
There isn't necessarily a contradiction Camilla - 02/12/2009 12:38:43 AM 1069 Views
I certainly didn't read The Lost Symbol for ANY cultural, intellectual or edifying reason. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:05:45 AM 1043 Views
it didn't come across that way imlad - 03/12/2009 05:15:36 PM 1061 Views
Of course not. Personally, I don't touch anything other than mind candy when I'm in school, Ghavrel - 02/12/2009 03:29:23 AM 1008 Views
one of the things that is important to me in books/shows imlad - 03/12/2009 05:20:29 PM 941 Views
We agree! Camilla - 03/12/2009 08:03:00 PM 1034 Views
WoT has decent characterization, though a little overwrought. Harrington... not so much. Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 04:26:43 AM 1195 Views
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is a science fiction/fantasy movie. Aeryn - 02/12/2009 12:54:08 AM 1104 Views
i was gonna point that out. thnks. *NM* imlad - 02/12/2009 01:13:47 AM 449 Views
Reading only speculative literature is limiting and monotonous. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:09:42 AM 1142 Views
I was going to say exactly that about "real" literature: monotonous and limiting. Aeryn - 02/12/2009 01:57:49 PM 1035 Views
I think his point was that only SF/F wasn't good food. Rebekah - 02/12/2009 02:15:29 PM 1012 Views
I would not disagree with you if you said that. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:27:08 PM 957 Views
Most non-speculative fiction is fluff as well though. Werthead - 03/12/2009 05:38:32 PM 955 Views
hear hear!! I agree totally wert-man imlad - 03/12/2009 07:20:09 PM 1032 Views
Which brings us back to my point. Camilla - 03/12/2009 08:04:24 PM 1088 Views
I would like to see the study and statistics that produced this answer. Werthead - 04/12/2009 05:24:02 PM 969 Views
Re: I would like to see the study and statistics that produced this answer. Camilla - 04/12/2009 10:42:33 PM 998 Views
Actually, it is a film that does not fit neatly into one category Camilla - 02/12/2009 11:16:20 AM 1084 Views
Science Fiction is the most PERTINANT form of fiction in the world today imlad - 02/12/2009 12:57:19 AM 1019 Views
don't get me wrong imlad - 02/12/2009 01:28:08 AM 1061 Views
"Pertinent", not "Pertinant". If it weren't in all caps I'd have ignored it this time. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:13:36 AM 1069 Views
SF&F and 'real literature' are not mutually exclusive Werthead - 02/12/2009 01:19:05 AM 1033 Views
No, they are not Tom - 02/12/2009 02:18:53 AM 1043 Views
This line is a load of bull bme - 03/12/2009 02:39:53 PM 1129 Views
So why don't we occasionally focus on "real" books that are technically spec fiction? nossy - 02/12/2009 01:25:04 AM 1011 Views
Why must we limit our focus in that way? Tom - 02/12/2009 02:20:11 AM 993 Views
I don't see it as limiting or forcing. nossy - 02/12/2009 03:16:07 AM 1022 Views
"Elite club" or "elitist clique"? Tom - 02/12/2009 03:52:11 AM 1001 Views
Either way, I want in. *NM* Camilla - 02/12/2009 11:33:52 AM 545 Views
Elite club is how we midwestern rednecks refer to Elitist Clique. *chews on a piece of hay* nossy - 02/12/2009 02:52:01 PM 1150 Views
I was born in the Midwest. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:01:36 PM 1071 Views
I know. nossy - 02/12/2009 03:12:05 PM 999 Views
Green Acres in reverse, eh? Tom - 02/12/2009 03:38:09 PM 1016 Views
lmao Lupine - 02/12/2009 06:21:17 PM 1166 Views
*piledrivers you* nossy - 02/12/2009 06:28:02 PM 968 Views
...! Camilla - 02/12/2009 03:17:57 PM 1012 Views
Admit it. You know what I'm talking about. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:29:31 PM 1024 Views
Re: Admit it. You know what I'm talking about. Camilla - 02/12/2009 03:31:26 PM 973 Views
Vermont isn't in the Midwest. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:39:36 PM 984 Views
Re: Vermont isn't in the Midwest. Camilla - 02/12/2009 03:42:47 PM 999 Views
Huh! I really didn't think of you as being a masochist. Vodalus - 02/12/2009 01:51:55 AM 974 Views
Thank you! Tom - 02/12/2009 02:21:00 AM 909 Views
Shitstorm! Vodalus - 02/12/2009 03:06:59 AM 966 Views
Heh heh heh. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:45:40 AM 1002 Views
Read what you like to read. Craig - 02/12/2009 04:18:53 AM 1085 Views
I'll super size you. Fine. *NM* Tom - 02/12/2009 04:32:58 AM 513 Views
Oh noes! I'm getting word-fat! Craig - 02/12/2009 04:59:05 AM 1013 Views
I seem to have struck a nerve. Tom - 02/12/2009 05:20:27 AM 1054 Views
Apparently not the nerve you think, though. Craig - 02/12/2009 06:42:02 AM 1118 Views
Intellectual achievement isn't a static measure. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:13:10 PM 1033 Views
Re: Intellectual achievement isn't a static measure. Camilla - 02/12/2009 03:26:59 PM 1045 Views
Agreed. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:30:50 PM 963 Views
Re: Agreed. Camilla - 02/12/2009 03:32:06 PM 959 Views
Re: Intellectual achievement isn't a static measure. Craig - 02/12/2009 09:40:28 PM 1081 Views
I really did get under your skin Tom - 02/12/2009 09:58:18 PM 958 Views
Craig - 02/12/2009 10:06:46 PM 948 Views
Tom as much as you raise some great points, you are being a condescending ass. lord-of-shadow - 03/12/2009 04:26:27 AM 1015 Views
You're entitled to your opinion. I don't care. Tom - 03/12/2009 04:51:18 AM 993 Views
I keep replying. It's like a sickness. Craig - 03/12/2009 05:15:28 AM 1006 Views
Your subject line reinforces my opinion. Tom - 03/12/2009 05:31:50 AM 925 Views
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room. *NM* Ghavrel - 03/12/2009 07:21:05 AM 490 Views
LOL! rebelaessedai - 04/12/2009 12:21:36 AM 963 Views
See, you just proved my point. Tom - 04/12/2009 12:39:59 AM 1002 Views
Hm. Lupine - 02/12/2009 06:58:56 AM 1597 Views
Re-read my exact point. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:18:20 PM 975 Views
No. Some kind of reading is indeed essential. Lupine - 02/12/2009 02:28:22 PM 1117 Views
There may have been an assumption about literature due to the reason for the post. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:37:47 PM 1027 Views
Somehow I get the feeling that this post hasn't caused quite as much controversy Lupine - 02/12/2009 06:53:18 AM 1114 Views
As I see it... Camilla - 02/12/2009 11:38:07 AM 1006 Views
Yep. Lupine - 02/12/2009 02:18:22 PM 1148 Views
Re: Yep. Camilla - 02/12/2009 03:35:38 PM 1028 Views
Euripides was poorly received, initially. Tom - 02/12/2009 03:57:58 PM 923 Views
Re: Euripides was poorly received, initially. Camilla - 02/12/2009 04:00:35 PM 956 Views
I know. Tom - 02/12/2009 04:18:16 PM 1027 Views
Re: I know. Camilla - 02/12/2009 04:23:14 PM 965 Views
That is why he's so good, in my opinion. Lupine - 02/12/2009 06:15:45 PM 1113 Views
I wasn't looking to generate controversy Tom - 02/12/2009 02:19:13 PM 1120 Views
Well... then I'm going to have to agree with Craig a bit. Lupine - 02/12/2009 02:32:59 PM 1110 Views
Well, I was being somewhat denigrating. "Unnecessarily" or not is a matter of debate. Tom - 02/12/2009 02:40:29 PM 989 Views
Well, it's only "unnecessary" if you don't want people to be turned off of your message immediately. *NM* Craig - 02/12/2009 09:42:46 PM 496 Views
Judging from the responses, most people weren't turned off immediately. Tom - 02/12/2009 09:59:35 PM 974 Views
All reading of fiction is a diversion by the very nature of the activity. Jacob - 02/12/2009 03:43:05 PM 1024 Views
Diversion from direct action, yes. Diversion from reality, no. Tom - 02/12/2009 04:15:48 PM 975 Views
I maintain that all acts of reading fiction are a diversion from reality/ the realistic Jacob - 02/12/2009 05:43:16 PM 997 Views
It seems a regressive argument to me. Tom - 03/12/2009 01:18:02 AM 953 Views
You're playing a game. Jacob - 03/12/2009 03:40:14 PM 1025 Views
I like your response. *NM* Aeryn - 03/12/2009 05:37:09 PM 460 Views
I fundamentally agree with much of what you're saying, but there is a distinction. Tom - 03/12/2009 06:44:02 PM 1016 Views
Oh I concur on that distinction. Jacob - 04/12/2009 09:06:34 PM 1057 Views
Spec fic is perhaps at it's best in autocracies? Ouranid - 02/12/2009 04:10:56 PM 952 Views
Bulgakov Camilla - 02/12/2009 04:25:17 PM 995 Views
I've only read the first chapter of M&M. Ouranid - 02/12/2009 04:36:09 PM 968 Views
Re: I've only read the first chapter of M&M. Camilla - 02/12/2009 04:40:16 PM 922 Views
Not the greatest Tolkien scholar, me. Ouranid - 02/12/2009 05:17:31 PM 960 Views
Re: Not the greatest Tolkien scholar, me. Camilla - 02/12/2009 05:40:16 PM 992 Views
I suppose. Ouranid - 02/12/2009 06:26:30 PM 1012 Views
Re: I suppose. Camilla - 02/12/2009 07:25:26 PM 1015 Views
Well, I don't hold escapism in such low esteem *NM* Ouranid - 02/12/2009 07:56:13 PM 503 Views
That is what I mean Camilla - 02/12/2009 08:36:02 PM 940 Views
This was something I was exploring earlier. Tom - 02/12/2009 04:34:41 PM 1049 Views
Funny thing about the hivemind antagonist. Ouranid - 02/12/2009 05:13:30 PM 1011 Views
I didn't see the zombies reading speculative fiction Tom - 02/12/2009 05:30:26 PM 1093 Views
Oh, they prefer Clive Cussler. Ouranid - 02/12/2009 06:23:42 PM 1057 Views
There's an interesting book in Russian that might be translated somewhere. Tom - 02/12/2009 10:02:48 PM 1056 Views
i think it comes more down to quality than genre. LadyLorraine - 02/12/2009 04:55:20 PM 1025 Views
I disagree with the ultimate conclusion but agree with many of your points. Tom - 02/12/2009 05:43:04 PM 1002 Views
the illiad is a classic LadyLorraine - 02/12/2009 06:35:24 PM 1022 Views
There's only one "L" in Iliad Tom - 02/12/2009 08:18:38 PM 990 Views
Is there a safe answer to that question? *NM* LadyLorraine - 02/12/2009 10:33:21 PM 530 Views
Maybe not. *NM* Tom - 03/12/2009 12:59:09 AM 495 Views
It took me a few minutes to agree Beqi - 02/12/2009 07:04:59 PM 978 Views
Well, I'm glad if you got something out of the post! Tom - 02/12/2009 09:13:26 PM 985 Views
Re: Well, I'm glad if you got something out of the post! Camilla - 02/12/2009 09:20:49 PM 970 Views
I don't know. I've only read about 30 pages so far. *NM* Tom - 02/12/2009 10:05:54 PM 525 Views
Many people have mentioned that there's quite a bit of good sff lit out there and you seem to agree. Cockatiel of Doom - 02/12/2009 07:33:42 PM 1102 Views
Hmmm Camilla - 02/12/2009 08:40:53 PM 990 Views
Re: Hmmm Cockatiel of Doom - 02/12/2009 10:48:02 PM 1016 Views
The website is called "Read and Find Out". It doesn't specify what we're supposed to read. Rebekah - 02/12/2009 08:42:19 PM 1069 Views
Anti the idea ? I see no evidence for this. AgentOrange - 02/12/2009 09:50:37 PM 1022 Views
Heh Rebekah - 02/12/2009 09:56:30 PM 1027 Views
What do you mean ? Almost all the repliers agree with Tom AgentOrange - 03/12/2009 11:01:08 AM 999 Views
Re: What do you mean ? Almost all the repliers agree with Tom Camilla - 03/12/2009 11:10:35 AM 1012 Views
I see. You don't read announcements. Rebekah - 03/12/2009 11:12:04 AM 980 Views
No, but it does bill itself as science fiction/fantasy. Cockatiel of Doom - 02/12/2009 10:51:41 PM 1109 Views
Yes. Rebekah - 03/12/2009 12:01:30 AM 1096 Views
I think Rebekah and Camilla put it well. Tom - 02/12/2009 10:05:24 PM 1081 Views
I think they make good points, as I said above. Cockatiel of Doom - 02/12/2009 10:56:55 PM 961 Views
I agree with in principle random thoughts - 02/12/2009 11:22:19 PM 956 Views
Certainly. People are free to skip any discussion. Tom - 03/12/2009 01:01:40 AM 1075 Views
I have a few objections. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/12/2009 12:24:43 AM 1037 Views
where else should we talk about it? LadyLorraine - 03/12/2009 12:37:26 AM 1002 Views
There's a difference between having threads about it and focusing the official book club on it. Dreaded Anomaly - 03/12/2009 12:40:53 AM 1078 Views
This is the Sci-Fi and Fantasy Board for site optimization purposes. Tom - 03/12/2009 01:07:39 AM 14024 Views
random thoughts stole my subject line Chas - 03/12/2009 01:56:07 AM 1038 Views
I think I could agree with a "comfort food" analogy Tom - 03/12/2009 02:12:01 AM 1046 Views
Re: I think I could agree with a "comfort food" analogy Chas - 03/12/2009 02:38:17 AM 1099 Views
That's it Ouranid - 03/12/2009 04:02:28 AM 1098 Views
Question: is it really science fiction without one of the following: Tom - 03/12/2009 05:13:21 AM 1037 Views
Certainly Ouranid - 03/12/2009 06:13:38 AM 1076 Views
technically speaking, fantasy is classed as a sub heading under science fiction. *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/12/2009 02:51:12 PM 425 Views
According to whom? *NM* Camilla - 03/12/2009 03:55:45 PM 550 Views
Yeah. What she asked! *NM* Tom - 03/12/2009 09:23:55 PM 515 Views
Yes, it is but actually... Ellestra - 03/12/2009 09:31:44 PM 1032 Views
Eternal Sunshine doesn't have a mad scientist. Tom - 03/12/2009 10:09:01 PM 947 Views
Really? Ellestra - 04/12/2009 07:01:42 PM 1001 Views
But Dan Brown rocks da house!!! *NM* everynametaken - 03/12/2009 02:16:47 AM 525 Views
*pumps fist* Give it up for Dan Brown! *NM* Tom - 03/12/2009 03:58:23 AM 511 Views
That's Dan "booyah" Brown!!! Booyah!!! *NM* everynametaken - 04/12/2009 02:00:56 AM 520 Views
another thing wrong with your argument imlad - 03/12/2009 03:30:19 PM 1003 Views
Absolutely not. And, as I said before, there's only one "L" in Iliad. Tom - 03/12/2009 06:53:35 PM 831 Views
sorry about my atrocious spelling (including the one on pertinent) imlad - 03/12/2009 07:14:59 PM 1129 Views
No problem. On the substantive points: Tom - 03/12/2009 08:00:33 PM 1063 Views
more importantly, which I think it being lost in all this, Camilla - 03/12/2009 08:05:27 PM 1068 Views
I'm not reading the Iliad again, once was enough random thoughts - 04/12/2009 12:19:07 PM 986 Views
is it just me, or is this now the largest post/thread yet on RAFO.com??? 168 replies so far! *NM* imlad - 03/12/2009 05:03:25 PM 450 Views
Well, for once we're discussing books...and their value. *NM* Tom - 03/12/2009 06:54:01 PM 526 Views
Congratulations on the replies count Ellestra - 03/12/2009 09:30:41 PM 1123 Views
That was a well-thought out response, but I still disagree. Tom - 03/12/2009 10:50:29 PM 1071 Views
Re: That was a well-thought out response, but I still disagree. Ellestra - 04/12/2009 07:44:56 PM 1037 Views
But the objective truth of a setting can be measured. Tom - 04/12/2009 10:37:10 PM 988 Views
But does it make any difference in the objective value of the book? Ellestra - 06/12/2009 09:35:59 AM 1142 Views
YES. Tom - 06/12/2009 03:34:17 PM 950 Views
NO Ellestra - 07/12/2009 08:40:33 PM 1034 Views
Re: That was a well-thought out response, but I still disagree. AgentOrange - 04/12/2009 10:25:08 PM 988 Views
Yes, it is worse with movies. Much worse, in fact. Tom - 04/12/2009 10:33:18 PM 1048 Views
Re: That was a well-thought out response, but I still disagree. Ellestra - 06/12/2009 09:36:11 AM 994 Views
Maybe we're different, but I don't care for FX AgentOrange - 06/12/2009 01:37:53 PM 933 Views
This is not about the personal taste Ellestra - 07/12/2009 08:50:34 PM 1041 Views
I've obviously missed the show here... rebelaessedai - 04/12/2009 12:14:30 AM 958 Views
I'm not sure that's right. This thing just keeps growing. Tom - 04/12/2009 12:46:24 AM 1086 Views
What, your penis? rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:40:09 AM 966 Views
Don't you know it! Tom - 06/12/2009 03:28:16 PM 861 Views
You talk the talk, that's for sure. rebelaessedai - 07/12/2009 08:14:41 PM 1019 Views
Hate to break it to you... Craig - 07/12/2009 09:54:24 PM 1063 Views
I thought you were gonna tell me... rebelaessedai - 08/12/2009 03:07:54 PM 1130 Views
Metaphor versus literalism Werthead - 04/12/2009 05:42:03 PM 1036 Views
Metaphor divorced from the reality runs risks, however. Tom - 04/12/2009 10:25:47 PM 952 Views
Honestly, the moral can always be dismissed as inapplicable if you want to dismiss it. Legolas - 05/12/2009 12:16:39 AM 1018 Views
While that's true, it's much harder to just dismiss Mockingbird. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 03:57:42 AM 981 Views
Then why read fiction at all? It's all a diversion. Werthead - 05/12/2009 04:16:06 PM 967 Views
I think people should read non-fiction, and The Nine Hundred Days is an excellent book. Tom - 05/12/2009 04:41:50 PM 961 Views
aha. but. Camilla - 07/12/2009 03:56:48 PM 1167 Views
Quoting Nietzsche is really hitting below the belt. Tom - 07/12/2009 09:12:34 PM 1105 Views
It is good I was only paraphrasing, then Camilla - 08/12/2009 10:44:14 AM 999 Views
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