I don't get that. Well, of course I do from Tom, but let's put him aside for this discussion.
Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 03:35:21 AM
(Sorry, Tom.)
I'm currently rereading WoT, so I'm definitely in the "light fantasy for pleasure" crowd. But I also am very sick and tired of posts that consist of nothing more than "I JUST READ THE DRESDEN FILES OH MY GOD HARRY DRESDEN IS SO COOL !!!" The problem is that while light fantasy is wonderful to read, it typically makes for really bad discussion. And, as Tom has pointed out (okay, we'll drag him back in for a moment), it ultimately leaves a person wanting for something significantly substantial.
That doesn't mean that we should all stop reading WoT and the Dresden Files (although maybe a little bit more thought than "OMG COOL" or "WTF SUCKS" should go into posts on these topics); it simply means that there are a lot of people on the board who want to have conversations of substance about substantial things. And yes, irritation occurs when books like The Count of Monte Cristo get chosen, especially when the people who choose it don't contribute in depth to discussion on it.
And besides, what Camilla said in Tom's original post about all of this is marvellously true: "We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
I'm currently rereading WoT, so I'm definitely in the "light fantasy for pleasure" crowd. But I also am very sick and tired of posts that consist of nothing more than "I JUST READ THE DRESDEN FILES OH MY GOD HARRY DRESDEN IS SO COOL !!!" The problem is that while light fantasy is wonderful to read, it typically makes for really bad discussion. And, as Tom has pointed out (okay, we'll drag him back in for a moment), it ultimately leaves a person wanting for something significantly substantial.
That doesn't mean that we should all stop reading WoT and the Dresden Files (although maybe a little bit more thought than "OMG COOL" or "WTF SUCKS" should go into posts on these topics); it simply means that there are a lot of people on the board who want to have conversations of substance about substantial things. And yes, irritation occurs when books like The Count of Monte Cristo get chosen, especially when the people who choose it don't contribute in depth to discussion on it.
And besides, what Camilla said in Tom's original post about all of this is marvellously true: "We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla
Ghavrel is Ghavrel is Ghavrel
*MySmiley*
~Camilla
Ghavrel is Ghavrel is Ghavrel
*MySmiley*
This message last edited by Ghavrel on 12/01/2010 at 03:35:57 AM
The Count of Monte Cristo was a terrible choice for a book discussion.
- 09/01/2010 07:41:01 PM
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Hey, now (copy/paste)
- 09/01/2010 07:48:56 PM
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People should think about these things before recommending books.
- 09/01/2010 08:13:10 PM
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Which is why I voted for Bulgakov's M & M.
- 09/01/2010 10:56:00 PM
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I disagree slightly
- 09/01/2010 09:07:12 PM
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Well, by that standard a Jackie Collins novel is worthy of debate.
- 10/01/2010 01:08:04 AM
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- 10/01/2010 01:08:04 AM
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Oh, I almost forgot
- 10/01/2010 01:11:50 AM
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Ooh...I'd love to hear them!!! What did Eco say to trash Dumas? *NM*
- 10/01/2010 01:19:43 AM
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Here's the French translation from Eco's work on supermen
- 10/01/2010 01:39:28 AM
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I love it. Strangely enough, though, he wrote an introduction to the book.
- 10/01/2010 01:54:24 AM
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Not really strange as Eco has long been fascinated by this book
- 11/01/2010 05:01:56 PM
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Did he mention it in his book on ugliness?
- 11/01/2010 05:12:55 PM
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Re: Here's the French translation from Eco's work on supermen
- 11/01/2010 03:49:15 PM
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That's fascinating. Of course, I disagree with Eco's praise.
- 11/01/2010 05:12:25 PM
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Re: That's fascinating. Of course, I disagree with Eco's praise.
- 11/01/2010 06:22:24 PM
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I agree that abridging it would not work well.
- 12/01/2010 04:06:26 PM
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I think there are plenty of things that can be discussed.
- 09/01/2010 10:00:06 PM
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Discussed and put to rest in 5 minutes or less, perhaps.
- 10/01/2010 01:17:02 AM
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Depends on who you are, one would imagine.
- 10/01/2010 08:16:11 AM
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<pretentious>Well, why should we cater to the lowest common denominator?
- 11/01/2010 02:17:03 AM
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I'd laugh...
- 11/01/2010 07:21:38 PM
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I don't get that. Well, of course I do from Tom, but let's put him aside for this discussion.
- 12/01/2010 03:35:21 AM
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It's frustrating though...
- 12/01/2010 04:18:37 AM
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I think if you posted that (or something like it) people would reply to it.
- 12/01/2010 05:08:53 AM
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Perhaps.
- 12/01/2010 05:26:38 AM
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Given the people who have read the Kushiel books, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised.
- 12/01/2010 05:58:33 AM
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You're not.
- 12/01/2010 02:16:09 PM
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Her next series sounds interesting
- 12/01/2010 02:20:17 PM
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It does, but the reviews I've seen aren't too enthusiastic.
- 12/01/2010 02:29:26 PM
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Yes, but how so?
- 12/01/2010 02:39:59 PM
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Well...
- 13/01/2010 07:03:08 PM
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Honestly...
- 13/01/2010 07:51:14 PM
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Absolutely.
- 14/01/2010 12:55:00 PM
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Re: Absolutely.
- 14/01/2010 01:57:47 PM
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In short, not a good name for a daughter. At least not one with an interest in Classics.
- 15/01/2010 05:32:35 AM
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I'm staying far, far away from Seneca.
- 15/01/2010 02:01:49 PM
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Ah, yes. The Apocolocyntosis. Possibly the least amusing humor ever penned. I hate Seneca. *NM*
- 16/01/2010 02:14:32 AM
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I really don't think it would.
- 12/01/2010 07:49:32 AM
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I have tried before.
- 12/01/2010 01:59:24 PM
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If it is well-written and defends the value of the book, I don't see why you shouldn't post it.
- 12/01/2010 05:12:58 PM
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I'm quite enjoying it.
- 09/01/2010 10:40:30 PM
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A kid's book of adventure doesn't translate into a good book club discussion.
- 10/01/2010 01:21:11 AM
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I have to agree
- 11/01/2010 12:36:55 AM
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How did you find deeper meaning (pun intended) in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea? *NM*
- 11/01/2010 02:17:55 AM
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True, true.