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yes but but despite how much he was hated by the left the right saw him different random thoughts Send a noteboard - 25/08/2011 11:32:19 PM
To a lot of people on the right he was a RINO or pretty close to it. McCain was a centrist as well and the right considered him even more of a RINO. So I don't buy the argument that many are making that the country is looking for a centrist. I think a lot of people on the right are looking for a true conservative not some wishy washy compassionate conservative, and not just the tea party. I also don't think the left was looking for a comprising moderate when they elected Obama.

Iraq is what really hurt Bush though and then of course the near collapse of our finical system didn't help. i think that if the country had not lost faith with him in Iraq his numbers would have held up much better. Odd when you think that he was right about the surge and all the people calling him Dubba were wrong. That could be another reason people hate him, no one likes to be proven wrong by someone they don't respect.
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A fine example of the fuzzy logic of the left random thoughts - 25/08/2011 06:30:36 PM 1166 Views
Personally I still favor demographic blind subsidies as the best route to meritocracy. Joel - 25/08/2011 08:18:20 PM 758 Views
it works for gender as well random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:02:58 PM 764 Views
Sure; insert your demographic here. Joel - 26/08/2011 12:51:48 AM 811 Views
Preferential in possible scholarships but not admissions process according to the article Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:26:25 PM 684 Views
What's your point? Joel - 26/08/2011 12:54:41 AM 640 Views
There are colleges that don't allow homosexuals - or men, or women for that matter. Legolas - 25/08/2011 10:35:05 PM 754 Views
Alright then, socially unacceptable. Joel - 26/08/2011 01:00:16 AM 774 Views
Ummm, did you read the article? Great Lord of Chaos - 25/08/2011 08:40:46 PM 822 Views
Ah, but you are not reading it either Dark Knight - 25/08/2011 08:53:39 PM 799 Views
But that's just a scholarship. Great Lord of Chaos - 25/08/2011 09:34:23 PM 782 Views
so you would OK if the only offered it to straight students? *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:50:44 PM 295 Views
You do realize that there are indeed universities refusing admission to gay students? Legolas - 25/08/2011 10:02:41 PM 650 Views
I would have no problem with a LGBT only school as long as it didn't take state money random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:27:48 PM 736 Views
This is a private university, not a state university *NM* Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:29:15 PM 327 Views
sorry that ended with NM. Were you trying to make a point if so I missed it *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:40:48 PM 344 Views
I expect some donor created a scholarship with that stipulation. Tim - 25/08/2011 10:40:09 PM 754 Views
I know my reply to his message may have made in seem that I was objecting to the scholarship random thoughts - 25/08/2011 11:10:33 PM 777 Views
If you're talking about "affirmative action", then yes, I oppose that. Tim - 26/08/2011 09:19:33 AM 702 Views
no I was talking about feel good solutions to imaginary problems random thoughts - 26/08/2011 01:38:33 PM 770 Views
it is a scholarship program not a admissions program random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:12:47 PM 769 Views
I don't really have a problem with this Isaac - 25/08/2011 09:03:55 PM 822 Views
I am not arguing that they shouldn't be allowed to do it random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:29:54 PM 678 Views
Fair Enough Isaac - 25/08/2011 09:41:25 PM 723 Views
The United Church of Christ is a rather liberal denomination - celebrating gay marriages, notably. Legolas - 25/08/2011 10:06:26 PM 681 Views
their stated motive was to increase diversity random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:09:17 PM 835 Views
well. It could be they just needed a reason, but for some reason couldn't be forthright? LadyLorraine - 26/08/2011 03:28:52 AM 674 Views
One of your lines struck me. Nate - 25/08/2011 10:12:32 PM 827 Views
that happened in the US, we elected Bush as a result random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:35:05 PM 654 Views
That's an interesting point... Legolas - 25/08/2011 10:37:37 PM 749 Views
yes but but despite how much he was hated by the left the right saw him different random thoughts - 25/08/2011 11:32:19 PM 863 Views
Re: yes but but despite how much he was hated by the left the right saw him different Legolas - 26/08/2011 09:57:13 PM 749 Views
Re: that happened in the US, we elected Bush as a result Nate - 25/08/2011 10:55:29 PM 777 Views
I don't think most people believed Obama was a centrist so much as the anti-Bush random thoughts - 26/08/2011 12:40:43 AM 689 Views
I think you'll find very few Europeans agreeing with that assessment. Legolas - 26/08/2011 10:18:19 PM 672 Views
It's also worth noting ... Nate - 25/08/2011 11:00:35 PM 652 Views
Wow what a strawman Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:23:45 PM 843 Views
yes to bad none of that address the point I was making which would make your argument a strawman random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:40:01 PM 640 Views
No I do not believe they are needed, nor do I believe they should be desired Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:47:51 PM 808 Views
so you don't disagree with me or you do? random thoughts - 25/08/2011 11:47:05 PM 774 Views
Ridiculous. Everyone knows conservatives are incapable of creativity. TaskmasterJack - 25/08/2011 11:12:10 PM 638 Views
are they going to make students prove they are GLBT? random thoughts - 25/08/2011 11:36:58 PM 690 Views
I would definetly check "yes" Aisha - 26/08/2011 12:11:29 AM 822 Views
but if they wanted to increase diversity they would offer yo a scholarship for being Muslim random thoughts - 26/08/2011 12:46:46 AM 679 Views
id be a gay muslim, so Id be 3 minorities, a woman, a muslim and a lesbian, now if only I was black! Aisha - 26/08/2011 02:16:50 AM 740 Views
I think it's less a failing of the "left"... LadyLorraine - 26/08/2011 03:25:42 AM 765 Views
I agree there is a lot of fuzzy logic on the right as well random thoughts - 26/08/2011 02:41:03 PM 700 Views
*nod* I don't deny that it's a problem LadyLorraine - 26/08/2011 04:26:56 PM 811 Views
a question for you... Dominic - 26/08/2011 08:08:10 PM 915 Views
I guess my question for you is how I made it sound like LGBT=liberal random thoughts - 26/08/2011 09:47:16 PM 672 Views
My guess is because you referenced "the lefts" fuzzy logic in a thread about a LGBT scholarship. Joel - 26/08/2011 11:07:32 PM 834 Views
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