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yes but but despite how much he was hated by the left the right saw him different random thoughts Send a noteboard - 25/08/2011 11:32:19 PM
To a lot of people on the right he was a RINO or pretty close to it. McCain was a centrist as well and the right considered him even more of a RINO. So I don't buy the argument that many are making that the country is looking for a centrist. I think a lot of people on the right are looking for a true conservative not some wishy washy compassionate conservative, and not just the tea party. I also don't think the left was looking for a comprising moderate when they elected Obama.

Iraq is what really hurt Bush though and then of course the near collapse of our finical system didn't help. i think that if the country had not lost faith with him in Iraq his numbers would have held up much better. Odd when you think that he was right about the surge and all the people calling him Dubba were wrong. That could be another reason people hate him, no one likes to be proven wrong by someone they don't respect.
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A fine example of the fuzzy logic of the left random thoughts - 25/08/2011 06:30:36 PM 1142 Views
Personally I still favor demographic blind subsidies as the best route to meritocracy. Joel - 25/08/2011 08:18:20 PM 736 Views
it works for gender as well random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:02:58 PM 743 Views
Sure; insert your demographic here. Joel - 26/08/2011 12:51:48 AM 786 Views
Preferential in possible scholarships but not admissions process according to the article Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:26:25 PM 653 Views
What's your point? Joel - 26/08/2011 12:54:41 AM 620 Views
There are colleges that don't allow homosexuals - or men, or women for that matter. Legolas - 25/08/2011 10:35:05 PM 725 Views
Alright then, socially unacceptable. Joel - 26/08/2011 01:00:16 AM 753 Views
Ummm, did you read the article? Great Lord of Chaos - 25/08/2011 08:40:46 PM 801 Views
Ah, but you are not reading it either Dark Knight - 25/08/2011 08:53:39 PM 780 Views
But that's just a scholarship. Great Lord of Chaos - 25/08/2011 09:34:23 PM 762 Views
so you would OK if the only offered it to straight students? *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:50:44 PM 286 Views
You do realize that there are indeed universities refusing admission to gay students? Legolas - 25/08/2011 10:02:41 PM 623 Views
I would have no problem with a LGBT only school as long as it didn't take state money random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:27:48 PM 705 Views
This is a private university, not a state university *NM* Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:29:15 PM 317 Views
sorry that ended with NM. Were you trying to make a point if so I missed it *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:40:48 PM 334 Views
I expect some donor created a scholarship with that stipulation. Tim - 25/08/2011 10:40:09 PM 730 Views
I know my reply to his message may have made in seem that I was objecting to the scholarship random thoughts - 25/08/2011 11:10:33 PM 747 Views
If you're talking about "affirmative action", then yes, I oppose that. Tim - 26/08/2011 09:19:33 AM 680 Views
no I was talking about feel good solutions to imaginary problems random thoughts - 26/08/2011 01:38:33 PM 751 Views
it is a scholarship program not a admissions program random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:12:47 PM 744 Views
I don't really have a problem with this Isaac - 25/08/2011 09:03:55 PM 798 Views
I am not arguing that they shouldn't be allowed to do it random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:29:54 PM 656 Views
Fair Enough Isaac - 25/08/2011 09:41:25 PM 699 Views
The United Church of Christ is a rather liberal denomination - celebrating gay marriages, notably. Legolas - 25/08/2011 10:06:26 PM 659 Views
their stated motive was to increase diversity random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:09:17 PM 814 Views
well. It could be they just needed a reason, but for some reason couldn't be forthright? LadyLorraine - 26/08/2011 03:28:52 AM 653 Views
One of your lines struck me. Nate - 25/08/2011 10:12:32 PM 802 Views
that happened in the US, we elected Bush as a result random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:35:05 PM 626 Views
That's an interesting point... Legolas - 25/08/2011 10:37:37 PM 724 Views
yes but but despite how much he was hated by the left the right saw him different random thoughts - 25/08/2011 11:32:19 PM 838 Views
Re: yes but but despite how much he was hated by the left the right saw him different Legolas - 26/08/2011 09:57:13 PM 726 Views
Re: that happened in the US, we elected Bush as a result Nate - 25/08/2011 10:55:29 PM 755 Views
I don't think most people believed Obama was a centrist so much as the anti-Bush random thoughts - 26/08/2011 12:40:43 AM 669 Views
I think you'll find very few Europeans agreeing with that assessment. Legolas - 26/08/2011 10:18:19 PM 649 Views
It's also worth noting ... Nate - 25/08/2011 11:00:35 PM 625 Views
Wow what a strawman Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:23:45 PM 813 Views
yes to bad none of that address the point I was making which would make your argument a strawman random thoughts - 25/08/2011 10:40:01 PM 607 Views
No I do not believe they are needed, nor do I believe they should be desired Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:47:51 PM 785 Views
so you don't disagree with me or you do? random thoughts - 25/08/2011 11:47:05 PM 751 Views
Ridiculous. Everyone knows conservatives are incapable of creativity. TaskmasterJack - 25/08/2011 11:12:10 PM 620 Views
are they going to make students prove they are GLBT? random thoughts - 25/08/2011 11:36:58 PM 666 Views
I would definetly check "yes" Aisha - 26/08/2011 12:11:29 AM 800 Views
but if they wanted to increase diversity they would offer yo a scholarship for being Muslim random thoughts - 26/08/2011 12:46:46 AM 656 Views
id be a gay muslim, so Id be 3 minorities, a woman, a muslim and a lesbian, now if only I was black! Aisha - 26/08/2011 02:16:50 AM 724 Views
I think it's less a failing of the "left"... LadyLorraine - 26/08/2011 03:25:42 AM 743 Views
I agree there is a lot of fuzzy logic on the right as well random thoughts - 26/08/2011 02:41:03 PM 681 Views
*nod* I don't deny that it's a problem LadyLorraine - 26/08/2011 04:26:56 PM 792 Views
a question for you... Dominic - 26/08/2011 08:08:10 PM 887 Views
I guess my question for you is how I made it sound like LGBT=liberal random thoughts - 26/08/2011 09:47:16 PM 647 Views
My guess is because you referenced "the lefts" fuzzy logic in a thread about a LGBT scholarship. Joel - 26/08/2011 11:07:32 PM 812 Views
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