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I've long advocated this for the reasons Tom states as well as others. Joel Send a noteboard - 21/09/2011 06:49:28 AM
This is why I am very much in favour of the compulsory teaching of philosophy to everyone who starts university in Norway. I would ideally have liked to see it earlier, as a component of high school, but I cannot make myself agree with the people who would discard it entirely because it is ``not relevant'' to their studies.

It's odd that despite ever more demands that schools teach critical thinking skills, philosophy classes below the university level are unheard of, and philosophy in general is often dismissed as irrelevant by those ardently campaigning for schools to teach more critical thinking. It's like they set out to become the poster children for their own arguments. :P

More importantly, compulsory metaphysics classes for all students would obviate my need to habitually explain things like the distinction between "evidence" and "proof." ;)
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We really need to have Logic as a course in high schools. Tom - 20/09/2011 06:50:36 AM 1504 Views
Logic classes would be good in schools. Timthetrolloc - 20/09/2011 10:23:56 AM 1007 Views
Ugh. Ghavrel - 20/09/2011 11:30:59 AM 1048 Views
Re: Ugh. Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 12:03:31 AM 986 Views
Something tells me that no matter who answered your questions you wouldn't believe anyway. everynametaken - 21/09/2011 02:16:52 AM 960 Views
this is a controlled demolition Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 12:20:09 AM 1099 Views
That is an incredibly stupid argument. Tom - 21/09/2011 01:12:38 AM 1042 Views
I've seen controlled demolitions in person. They happen in the opposite order of the WTC collapses. Ghavrel - 21/09/2011 03:54:35 AM 1042 Views
Asking questions is never wrong. ironclad - 20/09/2011 12:22:22 PM 931 Views
Re: Asking questions is never wrong. Timthetrolloc - 20/09/2011 11:57:04 PM 1101 Views
Agreed Camilla - 20/09/2011 01:09:40 PM 966 Views
I've long advocated this for the reasons Tom states as well as others. Joel - 21/09/2011 06:49:28 AM 908 Views
I don't know if the Internet is degrading skills, or just giving stupid people a voice beetnemesis - 20/09/2011 02:33:24 PM 1048 Views
There is compelling evidence that 9/11 was not what it seemed Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 03:06:58 PM 1031 Views
No, there is not. Tom - 20/09/2011 03:19:43 PM 1145 Views
Well, the circumstances were odd at least Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 03:26:40 PM 1014 Views
As far as conspiracies go ... Nate - 20/09/2011 03:36:35 PM 1108 Views
what would be the motive for the US doing something that stupid? random thoughts - 20/09/2011 04:40:31 PM 912 Views
I'm not sure you got my gist. Nate - 20/09/2011 04:46:28 PM 968 Views
I don't think there is any evidience that Bush wanted to attack Iraq before 9-11 random thoughts - 20/09/2011 05:21:09 PM 978 Views
Um. Well, sure, that would be true. If you ignored all the evidence. Nate - 20/09/2011 05:45:23 PM 1075 Views
Well if you had argued that some Bush advisers wanted to attack Iraq I would have agreed random thoughts - 20/09/2011 06:35:07 PM 1012 Views
But that's what I DID argue. Nate - 20/09/2011 06:47:17 PM 1015 Views
sorry but you need to be more precise in your terms random thoughts - 21/09/2011 02:37:36 PM 1058 Views
I've always seen them as separate. Nate - 21/09/2011 03:33:14 PM 862 Views
and that is why I decided to drop it random thoughts - 21/09/2011 04:07:02 PM 1024 Views
Heh. Nate - 21/09/2011 04:15:34 PM 985 Views
And the explicit statement of a Bush Cabinet member. Joel - 21/09/2011 06:59:47 AM 1103 Views
I'm still annoyed. Nate - 21/09/2011 01:58:38 PM 901 Views
I stopped responfding when suddenly realized I didn't want to be in a Bush Iraq war debate random thoughts - 21/09/2011 02:53:29 PM 900 Views
Admitting error is a sign of weakness; Don Draper said so. Joel - 21/09/2011 05:37:31 PM 940 Views
and I pointed that it was was just continuin gthe Clinton policy random thoughts - 21/09/2011 02:30:13 PM 978 Views
Even if that were true, it would still be flip flopping on a central Bush platform plank. Joel - 21/09/2011 05:45:10 PM 1035 Views
In addition: Nate - 20/09/2011 05:57:33 PM 1121 Views
sorry but that is nothing more than a simple statement of fact random thoughts - 20/09/2011 06:40:51 PM 1032 Views
This is very frustrating. Nate - 20/09/2011 07:05:48 PM 987 Views
For the war on terror? Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 04:49:12 PM 1039 Views
And what was the war on terror supposed to accomplish? random thoughts - 20/09/2011 05:12:11 PM 989 Views
That contradicts the evidence. Tom - 20/09/2011 06:15:48 PM 1015 Views
Excuse me? Macharius - 20/09/2011 08:22:21 PM 1069 Views
Huh? Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 08:57:14 PM 1046 Views
the problem with any other theory is the make no sense random thoughts - 20/09/2011 04:36:02 PM 980 Views
Contemplate this.... Jeordam - 20/09/2011 04:27:52 PM 1004 Views
You just did not go Star Trek on me Dark Knight - 20/09/2011 04:44:28 PM 1021 Views
And how did you know... Jeordam - 20/09/2011 05:17:10 PM 1080 Views
Re: And how did you know... Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 12:16:26 AM 1080 Views
You should watch the pilot episode of the X-Files spin-off series The Lone Gunmen. TaskmasterJack - 20/09/2011 08:19:15 PM 1059 Views
humans tend to be very bad at critical thinking random thoughts - 20/09/2011 04:58:43 PM 941 Views
Won't help Praziquantel - 20/09/2011 08:15:36 PM 1014 Views
Make 'em all take debate. nossy - 20/09/2011 08:23:37 PM 971 Views
Would madam like a cane? Elaine - 20/09/2011 09:19:53 PM 1103 Views
Maybe a walker with tennis balls on the bottom. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 20/09/2011 10:33:39 PM 465 Views
Do you think it would help? aerocontrols - 21/09/2011 12:09:42 AM 967 Views
Re: We really need to have Logic as a course in high schools. Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 12:10:08 AM 1001 Views
Yeah, and the 100,000 pounds of sudden extra weight slammed into the towers at 400 mph...? Tom - 21/09/2011 01:05:18 AM 973 Views
Not actually the best example Isaac - 21/09/2011 01:56:03 AM 979 Views
what about the hole it cut into the frame of the building? random thoughts - 21/09/2011 03:23:07 AM 981 Views
Wouldn't make much difference Isaac - 21/09/2011 04:08:27 AM 999 Views
OK thanks *NM* random thoughts - 21/09/2011 02:55:52 PM 521 Views
The fireproofing was scraped off the steel by the crash, so the beams melted. Aeryn - 21/09/2011 07:35:08 PM 1185 Views
Re: Yeah, and the 100,000 pounds of sudden extra weight slammed into the towers at 400 mph...? Timthetrolloc - 21/09/2011 03:02:19 AM 1013 Views
But how else would they fall down? Aeryn - 21/09/2011 07:42:27 PM 893 Views
You would force Euler on to the masses? Two Wongs - 21/09/2011 03:21:40 PM 1025 Views
You could still argue. Vivien - 21/09/2011 04:06:51 PM 916 Views
I didn't mean to imply that it is no fun to argue with a like-minded person Two Wongs - 21/09/2011 04:15:47 PM 928 Views
Eh, nobody uses pure logic all of the time anyway. Vivien - 21/09/2011 10:43:51 PM 1003 Views
Or they could just do more math. Cold, hard, beautiful math. Vivien - 21/09/2011 04:01:05 PM 923 Views
I love geometry proofs. Nate - 21/09/2011 04:10:57 PM 1076 Views
Me too <3 proofs! *NM* LaSombra - 21/09/2011 07:55:38 PM 545 Views
For pure enjoyment, here's a non math version. Vivien - 21/09/2011 10:10:40 PM 960 Views
+1 *NM* Isaac - 21/09/2011 07:59:57 PM 443 Views
Now we are talking... Everyone can benefit from some basic Euclid. jh - 21/09/2011 08:32:17 PM 1199 Views
Ha. Ha. Vivien - 21/09/2011 09:56:38 PM 1002 Views
As a follower of Cthulhu, I strongly disagree. Tom - 21/09/2011 11:13:55 PM 1166 Views
I really and truly appreciate your love of pure math for math's sake, but... Tom - 21/09/2011 11:10:03 PM 979 Views
Well, it requires a lot more science to really dispute things than HS can give someone Isaac - 21/09/2011 11:28:29 PM 978 Views
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