Sex may not be a need to the rational mind, but it is a driving force of our nature. Sex is part of what is to be human. Sex drive and sexual needs are different to each person, many people need sexual release. I can't believe you just said that the poor shouldn't have sex. Should they just eat their babies too? (yes I probably just ended the conversation right there with invoking Godwin)
It is a not a payment issue and it is a privacy issue. I can't believe you can't see that. The issue is not how much does the insurance plan cost but the privacy issue about the Church wanting to stop contraception.
I am sorry but I do not see it this way. By the church paying for my insurance but not allow me to have a choice in my insurance, they are dictating what I can and can't spend my money on.
1/3rd of what an employer spends on an employee are benefits unrelated to direct pay but instead are "benefits" The largest benefit by far is health insurance. People can't pick and choose their health insurance plan since they instead get whatever their company chooses for them. The main reason why wages for individuals are flat since the 1970s is not due to lack of productivity increases (we have had a lot of those), no the reason is health cares costs have gone up and instead of the boss giving you a raise or a bonus he instead paid that 15% health insurance premium increase.
It is a not a payment issue and it is a privacy issue. I can't believe you can't see that. The issue is not how much does the insurance plan cost but the privacy issue about the Church wanting to stop contraception.
Oh, it is nothing like that and you know it. Once they pay you the money is yours, not theirs. We are talking about how they spend money that was NEVER yours, but ALWAYS theirs until they paid it to an insurer. They are wholly within their rights to decide what they will and will not pay that insurer to do. If the insurer decides, for whatever reason, to provide contraception coverage with some of their profits IN ADDITION TO what they have contracted with the church to provide, they are as free to do so as I am to buy porn with my pay once it BECOMES my pay. I just hope the reduced pregnancy costs and lure of the insurance exchange is enough incentive for them to do that, because otherwise they will refuse and there is little anyone can do about it.
I am sorry but I do not see it this way. By the church paying for my insurance but not allow me to have a choice in my insurance, they are dictating what I can and can't spend my money on.
1/3rd of what an employer spends on an employee are benefits unrelated to direct pay but instead are "benefits" The largest benefit by far is health insurance. People can't pick and choose their health insurance plan since they instead get whatever their company chooses for them. The main reason why wages for individuals are flat since the 1970s is not due to lack of productivity increases (we have had a lot of those), no the reason is health cares costs have gone up and instead of the boss giving you a raise or a bonus he instead paid that 15% health insurance premium increase.
Democrats bailing on Obama - War against the Catholic Church heats up
- 09/02/2012 04:03:35 AM
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This is not a war on Catholics, it is Obama being an idiot again.
- 09/02/2012 04:52:01 AM
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For someone who used to be a Con Law professor
- 10/02/2012 08:23:34 PM
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In general, I disagree with that view, but not in this particular case.
- 11/02/2012 02:02:42 AM
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Also, kudos for linking to a source, and a fairly non-partisan one as well.
- 09/02/2012 01:33:07 PM
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I am a non-partisan guy, so I only use unbiased sources! 
*NM*
- 09/02/2012 04:02:50 PM
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*NM*
- 09/02/2012 04:02:50 PM
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Wanting both parties to be hit by a bus does not make one non-partisan.
- 09/02/2012 10:05:28 PM
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- 09/02/2012 10:05:28 PM
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You lost all credibility in the first line of your post.
- 09/02/2012 04:49:23 PM
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*NM*
You actually think any of us has 'credibility' anymore in regards to neutrality? *NM*
- 09/02/2012 06:46:13 PM
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It's one thing to have a bias.
- 09/02/2012 07:28:51 PM
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Wow, talk about making a supernova out of a couple hydrogen atoms.
- 09/02/2012 08:41:44 PM
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The Catholic Church wants to eliminate the birth control coverage requirement entirely.
- 10/02/2012 12:24:01 AM
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Sounds like they just do not want Catholics directly financing; great argument for public healthcare
- 10/02/2012 02:27:36 AM
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I'm somewhat suprised that Obama blundered this badly.
- 10/02/2012 01:40:14 AM
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Why? Have you not been paying attention?
- 10/02/2012 02:03:43 AM
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- 10/02/2012 02:03:43 AM
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If I am not satisfied with Romney then my Plan B is to not vote.
- 10/02/2012 10:58:34 PM
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How does that help anything? Except Romneys election chances, of course.
- 11/02/2012 01:08:22 AM
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No everynametaken this is not unconsitutional according to the first ammendment
- 11/02/2012 12:14:29 AM
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Obama doing this actually impresses me to no end.
- 10/02/2012 02:21:10 AM
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He is already preparing to cave.
- 10/02/2012 02:42:32 AM
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Why are you even replying to me? What you said has little meaning to what I said.
- 10/02/2012 03:33:27 AM
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Aaaaand you can put your hat back on now: Obama has already caved.
- 10/02/2012 04:04:30 PM
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Yup, the cave already happened.....you could have set your watch to this! *NM*
- 10/02/2012 05:00:02 PM
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Actually, no, I could not; I expected it to take another week or two.
- 11/02/2012 01:27:31 AM
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No, you don't have to buy it from insurers. You get it for free, just like everyone else will. *NM*
- 10/02/2012 09:55:53 PM
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"The employees can then buy the coverage directly from an insurer."
- 11/02/2012 01:25:52 AM
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Then that article is wrong.
- 11/02/2012 01:43:40 AM
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Two days ago the White House said it would not back down from requiring school/hospital compliance.
- 11/02/2012 01:57:50 AM
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So in summary... the article you posted was wrong.
- 11/02/2012 02:18:00 AM
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To soon to tell, but if you think so feel free to demand a correction from them.
- 11/02/2012 03:12:40 AM
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Losing the exchanges is a pretty big loss
- 11/02/2012 03:30:15 AM
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So they refuse to cover it for the next two years, then do an about face in 2014.
- 11/02/2012 03:57:53 AM
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If Aetna does not provide the free contraception as part of the compromise
- 11/02/2012 02:46:14 AM
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Yeah, I saw that; if Aetna does not do as Obama says by 2014 they lose out on free profits then.
- 11/02/2012 03:13:36 AM
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So Jehovah Witness employers should not have to pay for blood transfusions?
- 10/02/2012 03:57:47 AM
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Not if it conflicts with their religious beliefs.
- 10/02/2012 04:20:32 PM
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Money is not the same as speech!
- 10/02/2012 07:20:56 PM
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And actions are different from both—until others are expected to pay for ones actions.
- 11/02/2012 12:53:40 AM
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No it isn't Joel, empirically you are dead wrong
- 10/02/2012 11:24:19 PM
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I do not see how requiring private entities do it instead of the feds is "least restrictive way."
- 11/02/2012 12:53:22 AM
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Catholic Charities of Sacramento Inc. v. Superior Court
- 11/02/2012 01:21:46 AM
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"the Court found that it wasn't a religious organization, it was just a non-profit corporation."
- 11/02/2012 01:36:33 AM
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One last point
- 10/02/2012 11:35:25 PM
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The federal government forcing private groups to facilitate without committing sin also infringes.
- 11/02/2012 01:03:30 AM
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You argument does not make sense
- 11/02/2012 01:26:57 AM
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It was an analogy, not an equivalency.
- 11/02/2012 01:48:14 AM
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Lets enhance your analogy making it closer to reality
- 11/02/2012 02:19:41 AM
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Why could I not buy it with my own money?
- 11/02/2012 03:46:33 AM
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Re: Why could I not buy it with my own money?
- 11/02/2012 04:17:17 AM
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In other words, I could.
- 11/02/2012 04:21:05 AM
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You believe it can't help people since it is not single payer? *NM*
- 11/02/2012 04:31:13 AM
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Since you answered this in your other response I will just adress it there. *MN*
- 11/02/2012 05:59:37 AM
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Some more points
- 11/02/2012 02:30:27 AM
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Sex is not a necessity either.
- 11/02/2012 03:56:51 AM
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I can't believe you just said that
- 11/02/2012 04:30:12 AM
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LMAO due to Obama's compromise (the word compromise should have a 
in it )
- 11/02/2012 12:12:57 AM
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in it )
- 11/02/2012 12:12:57 AM
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Obama just got two weeks of being portrayed as "anti-church" to the point even Dems complained.
- 11/02/2012 02:00:28 AM
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The polls disagree with you.
- 11/02/2012 02:32:59 AM
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It is an interesting article, but not for the polls.
- 11/02/2012 04:18:17 AM
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I wouldn't put too much into that poll anyway
- 11/02/2012 05:37:05 AM
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Frankly, I hope Obamacare DOES die, just not because of the public mandate.
- 11/02/2012 07:18:04 AM
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I haven't really heard about it outside of this post, so the negative exposure can't be too bad.
- 11/02/2012 05:56:58 PM
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There seems to be plenty of Hell raising over it, but you are in the States and I am not.
- 11/02/2012 07:55:51 PM
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I don't think it's quite the laughing matter you think it is
- 11/02/2012 12:31:23 PM
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Understood.
- 11/02/2012 07:51:14 PM
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mmm...
- 11/02/2012 08:20:26 PM
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The man talked about during the campaign was the one elected with a mandate.
- 12/02/2012 02:28:15 AM
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I think Obama (for once) was far more clever you give him credit for...
- 15/02/2012 05:11:10 PM
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Surrendering on liberal issues then blaming Republicans is not just Obamas strategy, but his POLICY.
- 15/02/2012 07:23:04 PM
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