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BRIDE Tom Send a noteboard - 20/09/2012 03:39:30 PM
I do not agree with you at all that the passage could mean anything other than what the scholars are claiming. The "Bride of Christ" language always uses the word "bride" because this mirrors the "Bride of God" language of the prophets when used to describe Israel. I even looked, and looked, and found one place where the word "wife" is used in Revelation, but it's a bad translation, because the Greek original uses "bride" and not "wife" there as well. I then followed all those passages in the Coptic and they are uniform in the use of "bride". There is a very good reason, too - the relationship between Christ and His Church is ever fresh and new, always a celebration and a feast; he is forever the bridegroom and the Church is forever the bride. The "honeymoon" never ends.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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So, about this silly "Jesus' wife" story making the rounds... - 19/09/2012 10:55:55 PM 1524 Views
That's right! Jesus' position on marriage was "One man, no woman." *NM* - 19/09/2012 11:05:55 PM 749 Views
What is the context? The canonical bible says Christ has a wife: The Church. - 19/09/2012 11:25:19 PM 1143 Views
Oh please...don't confuse "wife" with "bride" - 19/09/2012 11:35:09 PM 1109 Views
What word do the Prophets use for Israels relationship to God? - 20/09/2012 12:38:20 AM 1097 Views
BRIDE - 20/09/2012 03:39:30 PM 1070 Views
Two things why it is important - 20/09/2012 04:24:37 AM 1062 Views
There is a very good reason no one dismissed the illegitmate gospels as illegitimate until 180 AD: - 20/09/2012 09:15:05 PM 1019 Views
The Gospel of Thomas was written before 180 AD. - 20/09/2012 09:33:44 PM 1028 Views
What is the oldest extant text of or reference to it? - 20/09/2012 11:11:03 PM 1083 Views
The Oxyrhynchus fragments were dated to c. 200 AD, and they are copies - 21/09/2012 12:18:33 AM 1052 Views
I would buy 200 AD, of course. - 21/09/2012 12:58:32 AM 1073 Views
It's not about "buying" it - it's essentially proven at that point. - 21/09/2012 03:26:50 AM 1064 Views
Yes; all I meant was that I never disputed a date around 200 AD. - 22/09/2012 12:25:41 AM 1046 Views
I don't think any of the gospels were written by their purported authors. - 22/09/2012 03:36:32 AM 979 Views
Not even Mark or Luke? - 22/09/2012 01:21:24 PM 1059 Views
Well, but everyone knew Peter didn't speak Greek - 22/09/2012 09:46:57 PM 980 Views
True, but everyone also knew Paul spoke it fluently, and he would have been an ideal choice. - 24/09/2012 06:20:22 AM 1028 Views
Some people did "lie big". - 24/09/2012 02:11:58 PM 1032 Views
I forgot about (or possibly repressed memories of) the Gnostics "Gospel" of Peter. - 24/09/2012 11:26:43 PM 1141 Views
I'm not trying to defend Gnosticism doctrinally, but... - 24/09/2012 11:51:40 PM 1083 Views
I am not relying SOLELY (or chiefly) on popularity though. - 25/09/2012 02:21:01 AM 1086 Views
The Gnostic response would be: - 25/09/2012 06:01:58 AM 985 Views
What about those who postulate a mid-to-late 1st century composition? - 22/09/2012 02:21:18 AM 1087 Views
Elaine Pagels ceased to be an impartial academic a long time ago. - 22/09/2012 03:41:41 AM 1049 Views
Suspected as much, but wanted to see if you thought so as well - 22/09/2012 03:47:05 AM 1202 Views
Let's not get started on Funk - 22/09/2012 09:48:05 PM 986 Views
So true - 22/09/2012 10:23:08 PM 1077 Views
Bentley Layton at Yale is a noted scholar who did translations. - 22/09/2012 10:47:05 PM 1014 Views
don't these people have anything better to do? - 20/09/2012 11:39:35 PM 1076 Views
Clearly not. - 22/09/2012 12:27:29 AM 917 Views
then i'll escape this thread before anyone twigs - 22/09/2012 08:12:37 PM 1150 Views
Too late, I have already twigged, branched and treed. - 22/09/2012 08:58:39 PM 1058 Views
I know! - 21/09/2012 06:48:33 AM 1291 Views
See, Tom, you made a mistake. - 22/09/2012 10:25:22 AM 1059 Views

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