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There is a very good reason no one dismissed the illegitmate gospels as illegitimate until 180 AD: Joel Send a noteboard - 20/09/2012 09:15:05 PM
1) We have very little original documents that are 1600 years old. Note I said 1600 and not 1800 or 1900. This document would have more religious authority weight if it was not 300 to 400 years removed from the time of Christ.
2) Most people do not know anything about Christian history, because of which most people don't know there were hundreds of Jesus stories. most people don't know the modern new testament was organized around 367 AD (also known as Common Era), and it wasn't till 180 AD that people actually started to state that the 4 gospels are the only gospels you should care about and the rest are "illegitimate."

I say anything that makes people learn a little more history is a good thing.

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This is assuming the whole thing is not a forgery, which there are way too many throughout christian history. I feel sorry for my grandmother who is a very devout catholic and how much it means for her to see the Shroud of Turin, and how she tells the story of that pilgrimage as well as others she has done throughout her life. I have to bite my tongue and not say that the shroud of turin is most likely a fake for radiocarbon dating shows it is from the 13th or 14th century which is ironically the same time it was "discovered."

Because there is NO mention of them until then, strongly suggesting they were written then. Which, incidentally, makes things like the "Gospels" of Thomas and Judas pseudepigraphs at best, and blasphemous gnostic fantasies at worst.

I know you are not saying the gnostic "gospels" are valid, but those who do utterly baffle me. The first historical reference to gnostic texts is a Church Father CONDEMNING them as wicked lunacy, a century and a half after the Crucifixion. It is the chronological equivalent of todays New York Times stating, "people claiming Abraham Lincoln was a slave owner are idiots knowingly or otherwise serving Americas enemies." Would any sane person take that to PROVE the claim it rejects?
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There is a very good reason no one dismissed the illegitmate gospels as illegitimate until 180 AD: - 20/09/2012 09:15:05 PM 681 Views
The Gospel of Thomas was written before 180 AD. - 20/09/2012 09:33:44 PM 693 Views
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don't these people have anything better to do? - 20/09/2012 11:39:35 PM 689 Views
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Too late, I have already twigged, branched and treed. - 22/09/2012 08:58:39 PM 748 Views
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