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If this trial were being held in any other country beckstcw Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 01:56:07 AM
With the leader of that country stating that the "suspects" would undoubtedly be convicted and executed, wouldn't we condemn it as a mock trial and a miscarriage of justice? I mean, if we're giving them the full benefits of a criminal trial, why doesn't "innocent until proven guilty" matter anymore?

Oh yeah, because they're prisoners of war, captured on the battlefield. Awful, awful, awful precedent. Indefensible.
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No need to interrogate Osama bin Laden? beckstcw - 20/11/2009 12:48:27 AM 1371 Views
oO uhm, what? LadyLorraine - 20/11/2009 12:54:13 AM 840 Views
If they're tried INSIDE the US, then yes, they are entitled to due process. Tom - 20/11/2009 01:44:08 AM 747 Views
Yeah, a lot of people were fuzzy on that till this started. The Name With No Man - 20/11/2009 09:30:39 AM 869 Views
on the other hand, we're more than willing to take them out back with a confession. LadyLorraine - 20/11/2009 06:34:12 PM 872 Views
As it seems we will. The Name With No Man - 24/11/2009 09:41:18 AM 871 Views
New York is now asking for $75 MILLION for the KSM trial Tom - 20/11/2009 01:43:26 AM 795 Views
Its to salve their conscinse Ryan - 20/11/2009 01:55:08 AM 784 Views
That's exactly the problem! beckstcw - 20/11/2009 01:58:37 AM 786 Views
If this trial were being held in any other country beckstcw - 20/11/2009 01:56:07 AM 803 Views
It's a terrible precedent no matter how you look at it. Tom - 20/11/2009 02:13:46 AM 816 Views
It IS a terrible precdent, hence you and others are citing it 65 years after WWII ended. Joel - 20/11/2009 09:23:45 AM 705 Views
Spare me the bullshit. Tom - 20/11/2009 01:57:16 PM 719 Views
I will if you will. Joel - 20/11/2009 02:55:30 PM 838 Views
No, you won't. You never will. Tom - 20/11/2009 06:14:30 PM 750 Views
You're putting your cart before your horse is the problem. Joel - 23/11/2009 05:40:46 AM 810 Views
No, that's not right. You don't read very closely. Tom - 23/11/2009 02:21:54 PM 743 Views
In this case my reading comprehension is more than adequate. Joel - 24/11/2009 09:16:39 AM 758 Views
You don't think this is a military struggle? Wow. beckstcw - 20/11/2009 02:52:26 PM 780 Views
Allow me to point out... Legolas - 20/11/2009 03:02:33 PM 760 Views
Well, Timothy McVeigh was in OUR Army. The Name With No Man - 20/11/2009 03:55:18 PM 878 Views
That's the thing, they aren't a terrorist group beckstcw - 20/11/2009 04:54:31 PM 803 Views
It would help if you would offer any argument in favour of your stance. Legolas - 20/11/2009 08:43:08 PM 731 Views
I only use the word army cause I can't think of a better one beckstcw - 21/11/2009 04:32:01 AM 790 Views
Yes. "Terrorist group". Legolas - 21/11/2009 12:02:04 PM 803 Views
Yeah I guess you're right beckstcw - 22/11/2009 01:34:34 AM 725 Views
Military struggles involve militaries. Joel - 20/11/2009 03:23:14 PM 914 Views
Once again, bullshit. Tom - 20/11/2009 06:09:31 PM 869 Views
Aaaah, I see; it's a question of who's the master, is it? Joel - 23/11/2009 07:47:43 AM 932 Views
You're wasting your time Tom - 23/11/2009 02:24:57 PM 774 Views
This is wrong Isaac - 20/11/2009 07:41:35 PM 764 Views
We're a long way from the shore of Tripoli. Joel - 23/11/2009 05:59:19 AM 861 Views
Nevertheless, uniforms or a nation is not a requirement Isaac - 23/11/2009 03:09:22 PM 778 Views
Rightly or wrongly, I disagree. Joel - 24/11/2009 08:48:25 AM 836 Views
That is bad AgentOrange - 21/11/2009 12:31:04 AM 759 Views
You're not going far enough, man. Joel - 20/11/2009 11:03:08 AM 803 Views
Blah blah blah blah blah *NM* Tom - 20/11/2009 01:57:39 PM 351 Views
I just can't imagine how they expect to get a fair trial. Gher - 20/11/2009 03:17:28 AM 722 Views
The Code of Conduct Isaac - 20/11/2009 07:23:02 PM 874 Views
The mention of God is interesting. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/11/2009 05:24:14 AM 483 Views
Your little diatribe in the beginning only makes me glad... Libby - 22/11/2009 05:32:57 AM 896 Views
I understand your "jihadist narrative" beckstcw - 22/11/2009 06:36:41 PM 916 Views
No you don't Libby - 22/11/2009 11:16:18 PM 827 Views
Oh, so you know better than Army attorneys about Miranda rights? Tom - 22/11/2009 11:52:00 PM 853 Views
I find no mention of Miranda in that article. Joel - 23/11/2009 08:13:05 AM 858 Views
I can explain it to you right now if you want? Libby - 23/11/2009 08:21:48 AM 761 Views
Credible legal and moral justifications for not trying terrorists in civilian court: Tom - 23/11/2009 02:56:19 PM 849 Views
Re: Credible legal and moral justifications for not trying terrorists in civilian court: Libby - 24/11/2009 04:55:12 AM 1017 Views
I'm glad that you will never be in a position where a decision you make can affect my life. beckstcw - 23/11/2009 12:27:35 AM 697 Views
Actually people of my thinking are already making decisions that affect your life. Libby - 23/11/2009 08:29:24 AM 848 Views
Please explain to me how military tribunals compromise my principles? beckstcw - 24/11/2009 02:54:18 AM 698 Views
And your little hyperbolic rant would make more sense if it were grounded in reality. Tom - 22/11/2009 11:47:17 PM 738 Views
Looks like we'll get a Not Guilty plea, and a defense focusing on condeming US foreign policy beckstcw - 23/11/2009 12:36:47 AM 972 Views
They'll publicly accuse us of tyranny and brutality in front of a jury and without our censorship. Joel - 23/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 937 Views
My main objection is the awful precedent set by trying prisoners of war here in America. beckstcw - 24/11/2009 02:57:13 AM 778 Views
"My main objection is the awful precedent set by trying prisoners of war here in America. " Joel - 24/11/2009 06:57:34 AM 792 Views
We've had Mohammed in custody for over 6 years... Libby - 23/11/2009 07:56:49 AM 848 Views
I've already responded to your absurd statements, but let me reiterate a few here Tom - 23/11/2009 02:59:09 PM 713 Views
And I've responded to yours Libby - 24/11/2009 04:57:58 AM 778 Views
It's not, at least for me, that we feel the civilian courts are inadequate beckstcw - 24/11/2009 05:28:51 AM 777 Views
Good analysis of the situation. Joel - 23/11/2009 08:17:01 AM 889 Views
It isn't about sending a message. It's about horrible war fighting strategy. beckstcw - 24/11/2009 02:59:31 AM 848 Views
No. It's about not using a horribly ineffective strategy just to send a message to terrorists. Joel - 24/11/2009 09:29:06 AM 739 Views
enemy combatants and terrorists imlad - 23/11/2009 08:03:25 PM 844 Views
They're not different because from the Third World, but because terrorists. Joel - 24/11/2009 08:09:13 AM 966 Views
not every soldier in history has worn a uniform imlad - 24/11/2009 11:00:34 PM 667 Views
One example would be Ethan Allen and his Green Mountain Boys imlad - 25/11/2009 06:23:08 PM 831 Views
Just for fun, let's call them fundamentalist vigilantes. *NM* Vodalus - 24/11/2009 11:12:09 PM 320 Views
Works for me. Joel - 01/12/2009 09:12:29 AM 785 Views
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