If Lindsey Graham, a former Army legal prosecutor, is worried about Miranda rights, then I'd say it's much more likely that you're the one who doesn't understand their application. Where did you go to law school, by the way?
You also fail to note that there is a difference between "military tribunal" and "no due process". The Guantanamo situation is bad and I for one do not disagree with you on that point. Yes, it does help jihadis paint themselves as victims of an oppressive United States.
However, most jihadis are going to view us that way no matter what we do. Furthermore, military tribunals which meet standards for due process, habeas corpus, etc. are perfectly legitimate and legal.
You also fail to note that there is a difference between "military tribunal" and "no due process". The Guantanamo situation is bad and I for one do not disagree with you on that point. Yes, it does help jihadis paint themselves as victims of an oppressive United States.
However, most jihadis are going to view us that way no matter what we do. Furthermore, military tribunals which meet standards for due process, habeas corpus, etc. are perfectly legitimate and legal.
I did find a bit about amending the DoD Authorization Act to reduce SCOTUS jurisdiction over it. Very cute, but I wonder what the SCOTUS thinks? If they think it's Constitutional for a Senator to decide it's Congress' job to decide if their legislation is legal, for example. I wonder what other ways Sen. Graham would like to "clarify" the nations highest courts authority to interpret US law. Frequently, I wonder if some of these guys ever took a semester long government class....
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No need to interrogate Osama bin Laden?
- 20/11/2009 12:48:27 AM
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oO uhm, what?
- 20/11/2009 12:54:13 AM
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If they're tried INSIDE the US, then yes, they are entitled to due process.
- 20/11/2009 01:44:08 AM
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Yeah, a lot of people were fuzzy on that till this started.
- 20/11/2009 09:30:39 AM
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on the other hand, we're more than willing to take them out back with a confession.
- 20/11/2009 06:34:12 PM
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New York is now asking for $75 MILLION for the KSM trial
- 20/11/2009 01:43:26 AM
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If this trial were being held in any other country
- 20/11/2009 01:56:07 AM
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It's a terrible precedent no matter how you look at it.
- 20/11/2009 02:13:46 AM
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It IS a terrible precdent, hence you and others are citing it 65 years after WWII ended.
- 20/11/2009 09:23:45 AM
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Spare me the bullshit.
- 20/11/2009 01:57:16 PM
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I will if you will.
- 20/11/2009 02:55:30 PM
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- 20/11/2009 02:55:30 PM
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No, you won't. You never will.
- 20/11/2009 06:14:30 PM
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You're putting your cart before your horse is the problem.
- 23/11/2009 05:40:46 AM
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You don't think this is a military struggle? Wow.
- 20/11/2009 02:52:26 PM
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Allow me to point out...
- 20/11/2009 03:02:33 PM
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That's the thing, they aren't a terrorist group
- 20/11/2009 04:54:31 PM
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It would help if you would offer any argument in favour of your stance.
- 20/11/2009 08:43:08 PM
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I only use the word army cause I can't think of a better one
- 21/11/2009 04:32:01 AM
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- 21/11/2009 04:32:01 AM
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Military struggles involve militaries.
- 20/11/2009 03:23:14 PM
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Once again, bullshit.
- 20/11/2009 06:09:31 PM
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This is wrong
- 20/11/2009 07:41:35 PM
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We're a long way from the shore of Tripoli.
- 23/11/2009 05:59:19 AM
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Your little diatribe in the beginning only makes me glad...
- 22/11/2009 05:32:57 AM
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I understand your "jihadist narrative"
- 22/11/2009 06:36:41 PM
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No you don't
- 22/11/2009 11:16:18 PM
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Oh, so you know better than Army attorneys about Miranda rights?
- 22/11/2009 11:52:00 PM
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I find no mention of Miranda in that article.
- 23/11/2009 08:13:05 AM
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I can explain it to you right now if you want?
- 23/11/2009 08:21:48 AM
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Credible legal and moral justifications for not trying terrorists in civilian court:
- 23/11/2009 02:56:19 PM
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Re: Credible legal and moral justifications for not trying terrorists in civilian court:
- 24/11/2009 04:55:12 AM
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I'm glad that you will never be in a position where a decision you make can affect my life.
- 23/11/2009 12:27:35 AM
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Actually people of my thinking are already making decisions that affect your life.
- 23/11/2009 08:29:24 AM
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Please explain to me how military tribunals compromise my principles?
- 24/11/2009 02:54:18 AM
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And your little hyperbolic rant would make more sense if it were grounded in reality.
- 22/11/2009 11:47:17 PM
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Looks like we'll get a Not Guilty plea, and a defense focusing on condeming US foreign policy
- 23/11/2009 12:36:47 AM
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They'll publicly accuse us of tyranny and brutality in front of a jury and without our censorship.
- 23/11/2009 08:27:13 AM
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My main objection is the awful precedent set by trying prisoners of war here in America.
- 24/11/2009 02:57:13 AM
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"My main objection is the awful precedent set by trying prisoners of war here in America. "
- 24/11/2009 06:57:34 AM
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We've had Mohammed in custody for over 6 years...
- 23/11/2009 07:56:49 AM
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I've already responded to your absurd statements, but let me reiterate a few here
- 23/11/2009 02:59:09 PM
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And I've responded to yours
- 24/11/2009 04:57:58 AM
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It's not, at least for me, that we feel the civilian courts are inadequate
- 24/11/2009 05:28:51 AM
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Good analysis of the situation.
- 23/11/2009 08:17:01 AM
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It isn't about sending a message. It's about horrible war fighting strategy.
- 24/11/2009 02:59:31 AM
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No. It's about not using a horribly ineffective strategy just to send a message to terrorists.
- 24/11/2009 09:29:06 AM
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enemy combatants and terrorists
- 23/11/2009 08:03:25 PM
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- 23/11/2009 08:03:25 PM
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They're not different because from the Third World, but because terrorists.
- 24/11/2009 08:09:13 AM
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