dealing with the repercussions of attacking another Islamic country may be our best option
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 23/02/2010 04:25:47 PM
I don't believe that the day Iran gets a nuclear device they will try and nuke New York. I do think Iran is a dangerous and destabilizing force in the entire region and that nukes will increase that by several orders of magnitude. If Iran was to send troops across the Turkmenistan border today to "protect" people of Iranian decent in that area we could kick them in the teeth and send them home. If they had nukes we would wring our hands and threaten sanctions.
What if we starting seeing Iranian troops in Lebanon? Are we going to risk going to war with a nuclear power over Lebanon? If they decided to hit our fleet in the gulf would we actually nuke Tehran? I don't think we would kill four or five million people to punish their leadership for taking out some of our ships.
If we believe that non-proliferation of nuclear weapons is a long term priority then we really need to draw the line somewhere. We should never have allowed NK to develop nukes and we could still pay a very dear price for that mistake but stopping them would have cost millions of lives and the capital of an allied nation. The argument that we should let one rogue nation have nukes because we couldn’t stop another and they haven’t blown anyone up yet is not a very sound argument.
If you did a pro con list for dealing with the fallout of another war in an Islamic nation and dealing with the fallout of a nuclear armed Middle East I think it would be an unbalanced list.
What if we starting seeing Iranian troops in Lebanon? Are we going to risk going to war with a nuclear power over Lebanon? If they decided to hit our fleet in the gulf would we actually nuke Tehran? I don't think we would kill four or five million people to punish their leadership for taking out some of our ships.
If we believe that non-proliferation of nuclear weapons is a long term priority then we really need to draw the line somewhere. We should never have allowed NK to develop nukes and we could still pay a very dear price for that mistake but stopping them would have cost millions of lives and the capital of an allied nation. The argument that we should let one rogue nation have nukes because we couldn’t stop another and they haven’t blown anyone up yet is not a very sound argument.
If you did a pro con list for dealing with the fallout of another war in an Islamic nation and dealing with the fallout of a nuclear armed Middle East I think it would be an unbalanced list.
Why Iran's dictators can be deterred
23/02/2010 01:31:52 PM
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Not sure he showed us how they can be deterred
23/02/2010 01:56:42 PM
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Er yeah, that's totally the argument I was going for.
23/02/2010 02:06:52 PM
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No Palin was simply cover for the "we just have to accept Iran will get the bomb argument"
23/02/2010 02:26:45 PM
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She wasn't cover for anything, but I like how this argument keeps going that way.
23/02/2010 02:36:47 PM
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As I have noted it isn't conseratives that keep bring her up
23/02/2010 03:26:11 PM
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and I tried to take her out of the argument. But here we are.
23/02/2010 03:39:29 PM
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dealing with the repercussions of attacking another Islamic country may be our best option
23/02/2010 04:25:47 PM
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The world needs to decide how it feels about non-proliferation.
23/02/2010 07:11:51 PM
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yes American used the bomb so now we should let everyone else take a turn *NM*
24/02/2010 06:22:23 AM
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It would certainly demonstrate the folly of that view.
24/02/2010 06:49:56 AM
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well hell then why not just sel them nukes and get it over with
24/02/2010 02:33:00 PM
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I really don't think the folly need be demonstrated more than once.
28/02/2010 02:49:30 AM
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I think this guy lives on the moon
23/02/2010 02:51:20 PM
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I was just talking to Lupine about how I like your posts, but I'm gonna make an exception here.
23/02/2010 09:28:44 PM
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You'll have to link that then, I always like to read things that feed my ego
24/02/2010 12:17:37 AM
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Oh, it was on AIM.
24/02/2010 01:13:07 PM
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Ah well, I'll have to self feed my ego instead, fortunately I'm very good at that
25/02/2010 03:44:43 PM
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Here's an article in response to Zakaria's article
23/02/2010 03:19:41 PM
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I generally don't care for Fareed, but believe he's right this time.
23/02/2010 05:59:00 PM
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Iran is a thorny problem
24/02/2010 05:38:09 AM
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I still don't believe North Korea harmless.
24/02/2010 06:59:15 AM
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I never used the term 'harmless'
24/02/2010 10:01:14 PM
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Fair point, sorry.
25/02/2010 12:45:47 PM
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No worries - I was just making sure you understood my position
25/02/2010 05:19:10 PM
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Re: No worries - I was just making sure you understood my position
28/02/2010 02:30:26 AM
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Re: No worries - I was just making sure you understood my position
01/03/2010 03:53:58 PM
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A carrot without a stick is just a free carrot.
02/03/2010 08:01:23 AM
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They can hit Tokyo
25/02/2010 06:10:44 PM
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So?
25/02/2010 07:01:37 PM
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I think you are grossly overestimating our border security
25/02/2010 08:03:13 PM
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Well, I KNOW you're ignorant about a lot of things and this shows it.
25/02/2010 08:56:45 PM
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Yes you are the Great Cold War Warrior of the chairforce
28/02/2010 06:44:31 PM
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Oh I'm sorry - so you're not so much ignorant as idiot.
01/03/2010 03:48:32 PM
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Israel does not have the military capability to destroy or significantly damage Iran's nuclear sites
24/02/2010 12:33:00 PM
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about - and it shows to anyone who does
24/02/2010 10:33:29 PM
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I think this ties in well with this article
25/02/2010 09:56:04 AM
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It's going to happen regardless sooner or later; might as well get out in front and claim leadership
01/03/2010 06:29:57 AM
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