and I tried to take her out of the argument. But here we are.
nossy Send a noteboard - 23/02/2010 03:39:29 PM
What is new in any of this? About all that is new is saying we should back the green revolution which some experts argue could be a poison pill for the movement which while I support I see very little likelihood that it bring about real change in Iran in the near future and if anything is more likely in short run to send Iran away from democracy then it is to send it towards democracy..
Sorry but you can't complain when people point out that your strawman is full of straw. I am not the one who brought her into a conversation where she really has no place and who brings nothing to the discussion.
How does saying keep doing what we have been doing with no success answer the question of how Iranian dictators can be stopped and if it does answer the question why bring in the argument that we should be concerned if doesn't work? Sorry but I can’t follow the logic there.
Sorry but you can't complain when people point out that your strawman is full of straw. I am not the one who brought her into a conversation where she really has no place and who brings nothing to the discussion.
How does saying keep doing what we have been doing with no success answer the question of how Iranian dictators can be stopped and if it does answer the question why bring in the argument that we should be concerned if doesn't work? Sorry but I can’t follow the logic there.
I didn't bring her in either, and I'm honestly done talking about that. I don't care for her either way.
It says to strengthen what we have been doing, for one thing. I can agree with your comment that our support for the Green Movement might not be a good thing for some of their people to see, but that doesn't mean that it's a bad idea for us to focus on the newer generations while we stall the incumbents in this process. The argument about not being so concerned is opposite to what we usually hear, which is more along the lines of FEAR! Fear them, because as soon as they have something substantial, they will ignore the fact that we can vaporize them and attack immediately. Obviously, it's not a fear we can ignore, but I can appreciate his calm and rational voice amongst all the fomenters, because it IS a fear we can work around until violence is the last option.
What do you suggest? That we bomb locations we suspect are working on nuclear technologies, and simply deal with the repercussions of attacking yet another Islamic society, even given the current climate? And with few other countries backing us? How do you see that working out for us (I'm honestly asking)?
Why Iran's dictators can be deterred
- 23/02/2010 01:31:52 PM
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Not sure he showed us how they can be deterred
- 23/02/2010 01:56:42 PM
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Er yeah, that's totally the argument I was going for.
- 23/02/2010 02:06:52 PM
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No Palin was simply cover for the "we just have to accept Iran will get the bomb argument"
- 23/02/2010 02:26:45 PM
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She wasn't cover for anything, but I like how this argument keeps going that way.
- 23/02/2010 02:36:47 PM
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As I have noted it isn't conseratives that keep bring her up
- 23/02/2010 03:26:11 PM
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and I tried to take her out of the argument. But here we are.
- 23/02/2010 03:39:29 PM
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dealing with the repercussions of attacking another Islamic country may be our best option
- 23/02/2010 04:25:47 PM
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The world needs to decide how it feels about non-proliferation.
- 23/02/2010 07:11:51 PM
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yes American used the bomb so now we should let everyone else take a turn *NM*
- 24/02/2010 06:22:23 AM
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It would certainly demonstrate the folly of that view.
- 24/02/2010 06:49:56 AM
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well hell then why not just sel them nukes and get it over with
- 24/02/2010 02:33:00 PM
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I really don't think the folly need be demonstrated more than once.
- 28/02/2010 02:49:30 AM
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Oh.
- 23/02/2010 02:07:32 PM
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Sheesh!
- 23/02/2010 02:11:34 PM
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- 23/02/2010 02:41:40 PM
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I think this guy lives on the moon
- 23/02/2010 02:51:20 PM
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I was just talking to Lupine about how I like your posts, but I'm gonna make an exception here.
- 23/02/2010 09:28:44 PM
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- 23/02/2010 09:28:44 PM
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You'll have to link that then, I always like to read things that feed my ego 
- 24/02/2010 12:17:37 AM
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- 24/02/2010 12:17:37 AM
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Oh, it was on AIM.
- 24/02/2010 01:13:07 PM
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Ah well, I'll have to self feed my ego instead, fortunately I'm very good at that
- 25/02/2010 03:44:43 PM
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- 25/02/2010 03:44:43 PM
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Here's an article in response to Zakaria's article
- 23/02/2010 03:19:41 PM
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I generally don't care for Fareed, but believe he's right this time.
- 23/02/2010 05:59:00 PM
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Iran is a thorny problem
- 24/02/2010 05:38:09 AM
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I still don't believe North Korea harmless.
- 24/02/2010 06:59:15 AM
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I never used the term 'harmless'
- 24/02/2010 10:01:14 PM
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Fair point, sorry.
- 25/02/2010 12:45:47 PM
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No worries - I was just making sure you understood my position
- 25/02/2010 05:19:10 PM
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Re: No worries - I was just making sure you understood my position
- 28/02/2010 02:30:26 AM
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Re: No worries - I was just making sure you understood my position
- 01/03/2010 03:53:58 PM
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A carrot without a stick is just a free carrot.
- 02/03/2010 08:01:23 AM
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They can hit Tokyo
- 25/02/2010 06:10:44 PM
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So?
- 25/02/2010 07:01:37 PM
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I think you are grossly overestimating our border security
- 25/02/2010 08:03:13 PM
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Well, I KNOW you're ignorant about a lot of things and this shows it.
- 25/02/2010 08:56:45 PM
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Yes you are the Great Cold War Warrior of the chairforce
- 28/02/2010 06:44:31 PM
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Oh I'm sorry - so you're not so much ignorant as idiot.
- 01/03/2010 03:48:32 PM
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Israel does not have the military capability to destroy or significantly damage Iran's nuclear sites
- 24/02/2010 12:33:00 PM
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about - and it shows to anyone who does
- 24/02/2010 10:33:29 PM
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I think this ties in well with this article
- 25/02/2010 09:56:04 AM
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It's going to happen regardless sooner or later; might as well get out in front and claim leadership
- 01/03/2010 06:29:57 AM
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