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i totally agree 100% with what you're saying moondog Send a noteboard - 12/03/2010 02:33:55 AM
after all, our country was founded on the principles that we should just continue with the status quo and never stand up for ourselves and never stand up for our right *not* to be persecuted for who we are. oh wait, no it wasn't. nevermind, i guess i *don't* agree with your arguments after all...

except for the part about liberals being myopic about their belief systems, that i actually do agree with. but it goes both (every) way in the grand scheme of things. the zealots will always find ways to hold onto their zealotry at the expense of their rational thought, it doesn't matter whether they are liberal, conservative or anything in between.
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Mississippi High School cancels Prom after Lesbian Student Wanted to Bring a Girl as Her Date Aisha - 11/03/2010 11:56:10 PM 1960 Views
Seriously, wtf is wrong with the US? *NM* Tim - 12/03/2010 12:08:32 AM 348 Views
Not ALL of the US. There were same-sex couples at my prom. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 12/03/2010 12:26:24 AM 394 Views
Yeah, don't worry, I know it's not like that everywhere. Tim - 12/03/2010 09:15:43 AM 788 Views
This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage. Cannoli - 12/03/2010 12:50:12 AM 1047 Views
Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. heartbreak - 12/03/2010 02:03:32 AM 873 Views
Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. Cannoli - 12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM 881 Views
Ummmm.... no. Napoleon62 - 12/03/2010 11:02:50 PM 898 Views
i totally agree 100% with what you're saying moondog - 12/03/2010 02:33:55 AM 1003 Views
What??? Dannymac - 12/03/2010 02:53:13 AM 974 Views
Actually... Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 04:56:03 AM 969 Views
Oh, it is definitely self-defense. Dannymac - 12/03/2010 05:52:50 AM 883 Views
That analogy is not apt. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 06:10:27 AM 943 Views
Er... beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 06:45:05 AM 813 Views
I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 01:39:19 PM 896 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 12/03/2010 02:05:54 PM 821 Views
I think you mean "I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt." snoopcester - 12/03/2010 02:45:23 PM 833 Views
That's right, I forgot to add that. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 03:23:25 PM 877 Views
It's a rather key piece of any attempted analogy, wouldn't you say? Sareitha Sedai - 12/03/2010 03:45:15 PM 777 Views
Again, you're right. Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 03:59:13 PM 752 Views
Yup. Sareitha Sedai - 12/03/2010 04:02:26 PM 861 Views
Not really. Her point is that they should both be illegal. beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:01:47 PM 784 Views
Re: That analogy is not apt. Macharius - 12/03/2010 02:06:51 PM 836 Views
And when the school refused to change it's policy... Dragonsoul - 12/03/2010 03:25:03 PM 779 Views
Absurd. Macharius - 12/03/2010 08:27:19 PM 856 Views
The rules were unjust. Dannymac - 13/03/2010 05:09:59 AM 881 Views
Wow, talk about proving my point! Cannoli - 12/03/2010 11:04:34 PM 997 Views
So hang on. Dannymac - 13/03/2010 05:04:58 AM 902 Views
It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong. beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM 858 Views
Re: This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage. Macharius - 12/03/2010 02:31:06 PM 896 Views
Why don't you show me where I said marriage is holy OR made a religious argument, you imbecile? Cannoli - 12/03/2010 10:32:42 PM 874 Views
actually, i thought i read that it was because she wanted to wear a tux instead of a dress moondog - 12/03/2010 02:46:00 AM 897 Views
Kind of a different can of worms then Isaac - 12/03/2010 03:20:35 AM 845 Views
What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over. Tashmere - 14/03/2010 01:24:47 AM 834 Views
Hmm. Apparently it is legal to discriminate upon the basis of gender. Imagine that. Tashmere - 14/03/2010 02:45:51 AM 822 Views
It kind of makes sense, given the highly arbitrary and stereotypical nature of gender. Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 03:35:44 AM 750 Views
Re: What?! Now that is a can of worms I could see getting in a fight over. Isaac - 15/03/2010 02:01:00 AM 869 Views
I would love to argue with you Tashmere - 15/03/2010 11:03:48 AM 765 Views
It is a great case of Selective Outrage, IMHO Isaac - 12/03/2010 03:10:01 AM 909 Views
Maybe. Ghavrel - 12/03/2010 06:34:42 AM 900 Views
"ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" Isaac - 12/03/2010 12:31:14 PM 820 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" Macharius - 12/03/2010 01:53:39 PM 855 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" Isaac - 12/03/2010 03:04:43 PM 809 Views
As is often the case, there seems to be a fair amount of assumption going on here. Legolas - 12/03/2010 02:22:48 PM 814 Views
Just giving the benefit of the doubt... Isaac - 12/03/2010 02:57:23 PM 874 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:23:54 PM 839 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" Isaac - 12/03/2010 08:17:25 PM 840 Views
That wasn't the impression I was under beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 11:23:08 PM 723 Views
Re: That wasn't the impression I was under Isaac - 13/03/2010 12:09:08 AM 884 Views
Pshhh there's a difference between "wear SOME clothes" and "wear a tux" beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:40:37 AM 773 Views
Your comments are inconsistent Isaac - 15/03/2010 02:09:43 AM 835 Views
I think you're optimistic about what her chances would've been beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:13:38 PM 831 Views
For the record... beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 06:48:25 AM 837 Views
Re: For the record... Isaac - 12/03/2010 01:04:33 PM 878 Views
Re: For the record... beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:08:06 PM 898 Views
Re: For the record... Isaac - 12/03/2010 08:08:42 PM 866 Views
No no, I know how you feel. I'm just disinclined to have sympathy for the school. beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 11:28:35 PM 728 Views
Alternatively, I have little sympathy for the school, I just don't have much for her either Isaac - 12/03/2010 11:56:08 PM 861 Views
Don't you think you're sensationalizing this just a bit? Aemon - 12/03/2010 05:42:21 AM 831 Views
Actually it is that reductionist Roland00 - 12/03/2010 01:46:23 PM 831 Views
Re: Actually it is that reductionist beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 07:25:41 PM 917 Views
I have issues with both sides, I think snoopcester - 12/03/2010 02:44:06 PM 797 Views
Regardless of "rights" invovled, I don't see why she shouldn't be able to go as she pleases. LadyLorraine - 12/03/2010 05:25:31 PM 876 Views
When I was in high school, my girlfriend and I formulated a petition so we'd be able to attend Lupine - 12/03/2010 07:55:33 PM 962 Views
Another thing I think people should remember - Lupine - 12/03/2010 07:59:43 PM 943 Views
One point though ßelals Girl - 12/03/2010 08:40:32 PM 869 Views
Re: One point though Lupine - 12/03/2010 08:46:30 PM 935 Views
My point was that it was a hollow reassurance ßelals Girl - 12/03/2010 09:35:46 PM 763 Views
yah, but honestly, is a tux really going to upset anyone that much? LadyLorraine - 13/03/2010 04:50:08 PM 728 Views
Just because it wouldn't bother you doesn't mean it won't bother anyone else ßelals Girl - 13/03/2010 06:38:03 PM 797 Views
It does nossy - 13/03/2010 07:35:39 PM 777 Views
Re: It does Isaac - 13/03/2010 07:48:35 PM 721 Views
I typically agree with you nossy - 13/03/2010 09:19:27 PM 838 Views
Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory Isaac - 13/03/2010 10:17:27 PM 774 Views
yah, but at this point, how much of it is the girl? LadyLorraine - 13/03/2010 10:24:57 PM 748 Views
Is she a child or an adult? IIRC she's 18 Isaac - 13/03/2010 11:33:39 PM 799 Views
No, it should not nossy - 14/03/2010 12:33:56 AM 991 Views
Re: No, it should not Isaac - 14/03/2010 01:16:33 AM 901 Views
I understood that. You explained it well. *NM* Tashmere - 14/03/2010 03:28:10 AM 370 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:49:34 AM 829 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory Isaac - 15/03/2010 02:44:17 AM 723 Views
This is definitely true beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 04:27:43 AM 858 Views
Re: This is definitely true Isaac - 15/03/2010 05:18:11 AM 1106 Views
He wasn't neccessarily advocating it. He was translating what they were doing into something that Tashmere - 16/03/2010 01:37:59 AM 787 Views
I'd argue that that kind of hypocrisy is invaluable in today's world, actually. Legolas - 16/03/2010 01:46:16 AM 781 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 13/03/2010 08:18:03 PM 820 Views
Re: It does nossy - 13/03/2010 09:30:21 PM 735 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 13/03/2010 10:11:21 PM 934 Views
Re: It does nossy - 14/03/2010 12:11:11 AM 829 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 14/03/2010 03:42:06 AM 863 Views
Re: It does Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 12:47:47 AM 880 Views
Re: It does ßelals Girl - 14/03/2010 04:09:18 AM 849 Views
You make good points. *NM* Legolas - 15/03/2010 08:08:37 PM 338 Views
Ah, yes, "the rules." beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:47:31 AM 767 Views
Read my replies to Nossy and Ghavrel ßelals Girl - 15/03/2010 05:01:29 AM 841 Views
Slippery slope arguments are stupid. Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 12:43:00 AM 718 Views
So is likening everythng back to the Civil Rights Movement ßelals Girl - 14/03/2010 04:17:54 AM 874 Views
"Dress codes exists for a reason?" beetnemesis - 15/03/2010 01:43:36 AM 773 Views
They do ßelals Girl - 15/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 902 Views
Damn. Poor liberals, all revved up with nothing to fight for. *NM* Cannoli - 12/03/2010 10:16:12 PM 520 Views
So... they were ready to fight something bad, and nothing bad happened beetnemesis - 12/03/2010 11:30:02 PM 715 Views
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