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Re: It does nossy Send a noteboard - 13/03/2010 09:30:21 PM
We're not talking about pants though, we're talking about a tuxedo. I know that girls tend to have looser definitions of what clothing is gender appropriate, but the rules for even their clothing are more restrictive in formal settings and tuxedos especially are still viewed as male attire. Plus, when we have a situation of a lesbian wanting to wear one and take her dress-wearing female date to the prom, the possibility that it is indeed cross dressing becomes much stronger than the possibility that I'm cross dressing because I'm wearing jeans right now rather than a skirt.

Plus, I agree with Issac. Dress codes exists for a reason. Make an exception in this case, and what else will you be forced to make an exception for? Men in skirts? People in causal attire? Tube tops? Where do you draw the line?

See above. Process and procedures to change rules exist for a reason as well.;) I don't care much about the tuxedo/cross-dressing argument, but I do care that the school claimed that canceling the prom would be less disruptive to education than allowing a same-sex couple to attend together. If they want the rules, they should stand up for the rules on their own merits. If they are good rules, they will be easily supportable (as some of the points you listed above), but if they don't stand up well when they come up against real discussion, well then...

Instead, it was a cop out decision, and puts immense weight onto a teenager's shoulders. Good thing she's almost ready to graduate- some of those kids would make her life hell.
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Mississippi High School cancels Prom after Lesbian Student Wanted to Bring a Girl as Her Date - 11/03/2010 11:56:10 PM 1936 Views
Seriously, wtf is wrong with the US? *NM* - 12/03/2010 12:08:32 AM 333 Views
Not ALL of the US. There were same-sex couples at my prom. *NM* - 12/03/2010 12:26:24 AM 380 Views
Yeah, don't worry, I know it's not like that everywhere. - 12/03/2010 09:15:43 AM 757 Views
This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage. - 12/03/2010 12:50:12 AM 1018 Views
Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. - 12/03/2010 02:03:32 AM 845 Views
Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. - 12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM 852 Views
Ummmm.... no. - 12/03/2010 11:02:50 PM 868 Views
i totally agree 100% with what you're saying - 12/03/2010 02:33:55 AM 979 Views
What??? - 12/03/2010 02:53:13 AM 942 Views
Actually... - 12/03/2010 04:56:03 AM 942 Views
Oh, it is definitely self-defense. - 12/03/2010 05:52:50 AM 858 Views
That analogy is not apt. - 12/03/2010 06:10:27 AM 915 Views
Er... - 12/03/2010 06:45:05 AM 791 Views
I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt. - 12/03/2010 01:39:19 PM 865 Views
... - 12/03/2010 02:05:54 PM 789 Views
I think you mean "I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt." - 12/03/2010 02:45:23 PM 805 Views
That's right, I forgot to add that. - 12/03/2010 03:23:25 PM 849 Views
It's a rather key piece of any attempted analogy, wouldn't you say? - 12/03/2010 03:45:15 PM 754 Views
Again, you're right. - 12/03/2010 03:59:13 PM 724 Views
Yup. - 12/03/2010 04:02:26 PM 829 Views
Not really. Her point is that they should both be illegal. - 12/03/2010 07:01:47 PM 758 Views
Re: That analogy is not apt. - 12/03/2010 02:06:51 PM 809 Views
And when the school refused to change it's policy... - 12/03/2010 03:25:03 PM 751 Views
Absurd. - 12/03/2010 08:27:19 PM 828 Views
The rules were unjust. - 13/03/2010 05:09:59 AM 854 Views
Wow, talk about proving my point! - 12/03/2010 11:04:34 PM 968 Views
So hang on. - 13/03/2010 05:04:58 AM 868 Views
It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong. - 12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM 826 Views
It is a great case of Selective Outrage, IMHO - 12/03/2010 03:10:01 AM 881 Views
Maybe. - 12/03/2010 06:34:42 AM 878 Views
"ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" - 12/03/2010 12:31:14 PM 795 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" - 12/03/2010 01:53:39 PM 828 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" - 12/03/2010 03:04:43 PM 785 Views
As is often the case, there seems to be a fair amount of assumption going on here. - 12/03/2010 02:22:48 PM 779 Views
Just giving the benefit of the doubt... - 12/03/2010 02:57:23 PM 850 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" - 12/03/2010 07:23:54 PM 819 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" - 12/03/2010 08:17:25 PM 813 Views
That wasn't the impression I was under - 12/03/2010 11:23:08 PM 698 Views
Re: That wasn't the impression I was under - 13/03/2010 12:09:08 AM 852 Views
Pshhh there's a difference between "wear SOME clothes" and "wear a tux" - 15/03/2010 01:40:37 AM 748 Views
Your comments are inconsistent - 15/03/2010 02:09:43 AM 804 Views
I think you're optimistic about what her chances would've been - 12/03/2010 07:13:38 PM 805 Views
For the record... - 12/03/2010 06:48:25 AM 820 Views
Re: For the record... - 12/03/2010 01:04:33 PM 854 Views
Re: For the record... - 12/03/2010 07:08:06 PM 876 Views
Re: For the record... - 12/03/2010 08:08:42 PM 833 Views
Don't you think you're sensationalizing this just a bit? - 12/03/2010 05:42:21 AM 808 Views
Actually it is that reductionist - 12/03/2010 01:46:23 PM 803 Views
Re: Actually it is that reductionist - 12/03/2010 07:25:41 PM 891 Views
I have issues with both sides, I think - 12/03/2010 02:44:06 PM 772 Views
When I was in high school, my girlfriend and I formulated a petition so we'd be able to attend - 12/03/2010 07:55:33 PM 941 Views
Another thing I think people should remember - - 12/03/2010 07:59:43 PM 922 Views
One point though - 12/03/2010 08:40:32 PM 839 Views
Re: One point though - 12/03/2010 08:46:30 PM 907 Views
My point was that it was a hollow reassurance - 12/03/2010 09:35:46 PM 742 Views
yah, but honestly, is a tux really going to upset anyone that much? - 13/03/2010 04:50:08 PM 701 Views
Just because it wouldn't bother you doesn't mean it won't bother anyone else - 13/03/2010 06:38:03 PM 773 Views
It does - 13/03/2010 07:35:39 PM 751 Views
Re: It does - 13/03/2010 07:48:35 PM 693 Views
I typically agree with you - 13/03/2010 09:19:27 PM 807 Views
Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory - 13/03/2010 10:17:27 PM 750 Views
yah, but at this point, how much of it is the girl? - 13/03/2010 10:24:57 PM 720 Views
Is she a child or an adult? IIRC she's 18 - 13/03/2010 11:33:39 PM 771 Views
No, it should not - 14/03/2010 12:33:56 AM 965 Views
Re: No, it should not - 14/03/2010 01:16:33 AM 876 Views
I understood that. You explained it well. *NM* - 14/03/2010 03:28:10 AM 355 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory - 15/03/2010 01:49:34 AM 807 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory - 15/03/2010 02:44:17 AM 689 Views
This is definitely true - 15/03/2010 04:27:43 AM 838 Views
Re: This is definitely true - 15/03/2010 05:18:11 AM 1080 Views
Re: It does - 13/03/2010 08:18:03 PM 791 Views
Re: It does - 13/03/2010 09:30:21 PM 706 Views
Re: It does - 13/03/2010 10:11:21 PM 908 Views
Re: It does - 14/03/2010 12:11:11 AM 803 Views
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Re: It does - 14/03/2010 12:47:47 AM 853 Views
Re: It does - 14/03/2010 04:09:18 AM 823 Views
You make good points. *NM* - 15/03/2010 08:08:37 PM 322 Views
Ah, yes, "the rules." - 15/03/2010 01:47:31 AM 742 Views
Read my replies to Nossy and Ghavrel - 15/03/2010 05:01:29 AM 814 Views
Slippery slope arguments are stupid. - 14/03/2010 12:43:00 AM 693 Views
So is likening everythng back to the Civil Rights Movement - 14/03/2010 04:17:54 AM 847 Views
"Dress codes exists for a reason?" - 15/03/2010 01:43:36 AM 751 Views
They do - 15/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 878 Views
Damn. Poor liberals, all revved up with nothing to fight for. *NM* - 12/03/2010 10:16:12 PM 506 Views
So... they were ready to fight something bad, and nothing bad happened - 12/03/2010 11:30:02 PM 694 Views
Teenaged lesbians - 15/03/2010 06:55:12 AM 803 Views

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