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Re: For the record... Isaac Send a noteboard - 12/03/2010 01:04:33 PM
I'd be upset at any of the examples you mentioned.


I like to think most people would, normally though it just depends on whether they have a certain bias on the situation - not even necessarily bigoted ones, could be 'Listen to that girl, what a bitch' - then the rationalizing kicks in. Normally you can prime people - especially americans who get fed the 'liberty or death' dogma from the cradle - by giving a 'freedom rant' before exposing them to a given issue or shortly after they've heard about the issue before they've dug in their heels and expect to get a very pro-freedom response from them.

I get what you're saying though. Plus, it's true that gay rights is a "cool" topic to get excited about over the last few years. The amount of media attention something gets doesn't change whether it's right or not, though.


Pretty much the direction of my thrust, yes. I am a very conservative republican and pro-gay rights (which is not as rare combination as most people think) but I'm also fairly cynical. I nominally support the girl's position but I dislike siding with either side on this since I don't like selective outrage and situational ethics, and that's obviously what's going on for most of the people on either side of the issue. Gay Rights has become a 'cool issue' just like protesting Vietnam became a 'cool issue' and many other issues have done as well, and invariably the rational and principled believers get edged out by the hysterics. Dr. King is shoved aside for Black Panthers. Lucy Burns and Alice Paul get replaced by Valerie Solanas and Gloria Steinem.

My guess is the school board was probably sympathetic toward her, and simply was trying to take the pragmatic compromise approach because they viewed having the prom as more important and didn't want to interject politics into a major traditional and highly important social event, when faced on both sides by people more interested politics and winning their battle than letting children have their emotional important event, they chose to cancel the whole thing. Not sure I agree with that either, but I can't demonize them for it.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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Mississippi High School cancels Prom after Lesbian Student Wanted to Bring a Girl as Her Date - 11/03/2010 11:56:10 PM 1898 Views
Seriously, wtf is wrong with the US? *NM* - 12/03/2010 12:08:32 AM 314 Views
Not ALL of the US. There were same-sex couples at my prom. *NM* - 12/03/2010 12:26:24 AM 357 Views
Yeah, don't worry, I know it's not like that everywhere. - 12/03/2010 09:15:43 AM 722 Views
This is the problem with liberals and their crusades like gay marriage. - 12/03/2010 12:50:12 AM 976 Views
Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. - 12/03/2010 02:03:32 AM 809 Views
Re: Just a few things that I know you'll proabably disagree with. - 12/03/2010 10:12:04 PM 811 Views
Ummmm.... no. - 12/03/2010 11:02:50 PM 825 Views
i totally agree 100% with what you're saying - 12/03/2010 02:33:55 AM 937 Views
What??? - 12/03/2010 02:53:13 AM 887 Views
Actually... - 12/03/2010 04:56:03 AM 903 Views
Oh, it is definitely self-defense. - 12/03/2010 05:52:50 AM 814 Views
That analogy is not apt. - 12/03/2010 06:10:27 AM 876 Views
Er... - 12/03/2010 06:45:05 AM 754 Views
I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt. - 12/03/2010 01:39:19 PM 818 Views
... - 12/03/2010 02:05:54 PM 744 Views
I think you mean "I'm afraid that again that analogy is not apt." - 12/03/2010 02:45:23 PM 766 Views
That's right, I forgot to add that. - 12/03/2010 03:23:25 PM 816 Views
It's a rather key piece of any attempted analogy, wouldn't you say? - 12/03/2010 03:45:15 PM 710 Views
Again, you're right. - 12/03/2010 03:59:13 PM 684 Views
Yup. - 12/03/2010 04:02:26 PM 786 Views
Not really. Her point is that they should both be illegal. - 12/03/2010 07:01:47 PM 714 Views
Re: That analogy is not apt. - 12/03/2010 02:06:51 PM 769 Views
And when the school refused to change it's policy... - 12/03/2010 03:25:03 PM 709 Views
Absurd. - 12/03/2010 08:27:19 PM 789 Views
The rules were unjust. - 13/03/2010 05:09:59 AM 819 Views
Wow, talk about proving my point! - 12/03/2010 11:04:34 PM 922 Views
So hang on. - 13/03/2010 05:04:58 AM 805 Views
It's not that I'm surprised they disagree. It's that they're Wrong. - 12/03/2010 06:39:30 AM 785 Views
It is a great case of Selective Outrage, IMHO - 12/03/2010 03:10:01 AM 839 Views
Maybe. - 12/03/2010 06:34:42 AM 836 Views
"ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" - 12/03/2010 12:31:14 PM 752 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" - 12/03/2010 01:53:39 PM 788 Views
Re: "ACLU Defends Nazi's Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters" - 12/03/2010 03:04:43 PM 744 Views
As is often the case, there seems to be a fair amount of assumption going on here. - 12/03/2010 02:22:48 PM 738 Views
Just giving the benefit of the doubt... - 12/03/2010 02:57:23 PM 805 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" - 12/03/2010 07:23:54 PM 775 Views
Re: "Pursuing their ideology" - 12/03/2010 08:17:25 PM 772 Views
That wasn't the impression I was under - 12/03/2010 11:23:08 PM 658 Views
Re: That wasn't the impression I was under - 13/03/2010 12:09:08 AM 816 Views
Pshhh there's a difference between "wear SOME clothes" and "wear a tux" - 15/03/2010 01:40:37 AM 706 Views
Your comments are inconsistent - 15/03/2010 02:09:43 AM 765 Views
I think you're optimistic about what her chances would've been - 12/03/2010 07:13:38 PM 761 Views
For the record... - 12/03/2010 06:48:25 AM 762 Views
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Re: For the record... - 12/03/2010 07:08:06 PM 821 Views
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Don't you think you're sensationalizing this just a bit? - 12/03/2010 05:42:21 AM 764 Views
Actually it is that reductionist - 12/03/2010 01:46:23 PM 761 Views
Re: Actually it is that reductionist - 12/03/2010 07:25:41 PM 845 Views
I have issues with both sides, I think - 12/03/2010 02:44:06 PM 727 Views
When I was in high school, my girlfriend and I formulated a petition so we'd be able to attend - 12/03/2010 07:55:33 PM 886 Views
Another thing I think people should remember - - 12/03/2010 07:59:43 PM 879 Views
One point though - 12/03/2010 08:40:32 PM 799 Views
Re: One point though - 12/03/2010 08:46:30 PM 865 Views
My point was that it was a hollow reassurance - 12/03/2010 09:35:46 PM 697 Views
yah, but honestly, is a tux really going to upset anyone that much? - 13/03/2010 04:50:08 PM 663 Views
Just because it wouldn't bother you doesn't mean it won't bother anyone else - 13/03/2010 06:38:03 PM 724 Views
It does - 13/03/2010 07:35:39 PM 712 Views
Re: It does - 13/03/2010 07:48:35 PM 655 Views
I typically agree with you - 13/03/2010 09:19:27 PM 770 Views
Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory - 13/03/2010 10:17:27 PM 710 Views
yah, but at this point, how much of it is the girl? - 13/03/2010 10:24:57 PM 670 Views
Is she a child or an adult? IIRC she's 18 - 13/03/2010 11:33:39 PM 729 Views
No, it should not - 14/03/2010 12:33:56 AM 923 Views
Re: No, it should not - 14/03/2010 01:16:33 AM 840 Views
I understood that. You explained it well. *NM* - 14/03/2010 03:28:10 AM 331 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory - 15/03/2010 01:49:34 AM 764 Views
Re: Following proper form shouldn't guarantee victory - 15/03/2010 02:44:17 AM 648 Views
This is definitely true - 15/03/2010 04:27:43 AM 798 Views
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You make good points. *NM* - 15/03/2010 08:08:37 PM 299 Views
Ah, yes, "the rules." - 15/03/2010 01:47:31 AM 703 Views
Read my replies to Nossy and Ghavrel - 15/03/2010 05:01:29 AM 771 Views
Slippery slope arguments are stupid. - 14/03/2010 12:43:00 AM 650 Views
So is likening everythng back to the Civil Rights Movement - 14/03/2010 04:17:54 AM 807 Views
"Dress codes exists for a reason?" - 15/03/2010 01:43:36 AM 716 Views
They do - 15/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 833 Views
Damn. Poor liberals, all revved up with nothing to fight for. *NM* - 12/03/2010 10:16:12 PM 485 Views
So... they were ready to fight something bad, and nothing bad happened - 12/03/2010 11:30:02 PM 648 Views
Teenaged lesbians - 15/03/2010 06:55:12 AM 765 Views

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