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that's the thing with muddying the waters damookster Send a noteboard - 13/07/2017 03:20:24 PM

When done well, the mud becomes the issue.

The Dems and their media supporters, like the NYT and the Washington Post, are masters of that tactic. look at the Clinton impeachment 20 years ago. Classic quid pro quo sexual harassment and perjury were recast as a Ken Starr witch hunt and unreasonable encroachment into the privacy of the Clinton's marriage. And it worked! So why not keep going back to the well.

Mook

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"Bustin' makes me feel good!"

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The truly amusing thing about all this. LiterateDog - 13/07/2017 02:32:33 PM 1090 Views
that's the thing with muddying the waters damookster - 13/07/2017 03:20:24 PM 489 Views
The media lost the respect they commanded back then. Tom - 13/07/2017 10:42:27 PM 396 Views
The other thing I was thinking.... Jeordam - 13/07/2017 07:05:27 PM 547 Views
We know how they would react because it happened. Tom - 13/07/2017 10:37:43 PM 452 Views
So imprison Clinton and Trump both. Just put Kasich in. I don't mind. Ghavrel - 14/07/2017 03:40:02 AM 480 Views
No thanks. We don't need Mr. Magoo as President. Tom - 14/07/2017 08:46:14 PM 511 Views
And why would we imprison Trump, counselor? Tom - 14/07/2017 08:47:34 PM 460 Views
This is your defense? "Other people would do it too?" *NM* Ghavrel - 14/07/2017 03:36:26 AM 225 Views
To quoque or not to quoque, I think the essential defense is there is NO wrongdoing in such events Cannoli - 14/07/2017 04:45:41 AM 515 Views
That's at least more logically consistent. Ghavrel - 14/07/2017 10:42:08 AM 562 Views
I don't need a defense.... Jeordam - 14/07/2017 08:31:12 PM 406 Views
Actually it is illegal in several ways Roland00 - 15/07/2017 01:55:02 AM 545 Views
dirt on an opponent is equivilent to a monetary disbursment? *NM* damookster - 15/07/2017 03:43:28 AM 339 Views
I don't have an opinion on whether the law was broken here. Ghavrel - 15/07/2017 05:12:08 AM 568 Views
Yes Roland00 - 15/07/2017 02:34:53 PM 440 Views
Bah damookster - 15/07/2017 04:56:08 PM 426 Views
Question Mookie, when did you think this law was enacted and last revised? Roland00 - 16/07/2017 11:46:43 AM 472 Views
No clue. I could google, of course, but that would be cheating. *NM* damookster - 16/07/2017 03:29:52 PM 272 Views
The offered dirty was that the Clintons were taking campaign donations from a foreign national again random thoughts - 18/07/2017 08:08:23 PM 446 Views
I very well could be wrong, but I don't think that I am. Jeordam - 17/07/2017 04:50:24 PM 464 Views
Well yeah. That happened. But it's not the main point. It's a side-bonus. nossy - 13/07/2017 10:22:32 PM 392 Views
I'm waiting for Little Marco to send me a subpoena. Tom - 13/07/2017 10:40:25 PM 474 Views
That's a very good point that needs further exploration damookster - 13/07/2017 11:54:56 PM 476 Views
The New York Times still has a fold? Tom - 14/07/2017 02:28:48 PM 440 Views
I think I served you a subpoena once. . . It was a small subpoena. *NM* Roland00 - 14/07/2017 09:02:48 AM 289 Views
What are your opinions on Manning and Snowden? I honestly don't remember. Ghavrel - 14/07/2017 03:42:09 AM 436 Views
Well, the Russian government did not swear oaths as members of the US military or public servants Cannoli - 14/07/2017 04:58:18 AM 523 Views
Extend the query to Wikileaks publishing the documents, then. Ghavrel - 14/07/2017 10:34:53 AM 508 Views
Are you sure? aerocontrols - 14/07/2017 02:29:51 PM 362 Views
That only works if you can claim with a straight face the GOP wouldn't care Ghavrel - 14/07/2017 03:32:43 PM 503 Views
You've misunderstood me aerocontrols - 14/07/2017 06:22:21 PM 507 Views
I don't think I have. Ghavrel - 15/07/2017 02:34:27 AM 442 Views
No I'm not. aerocontrols - 15/07/2017 03:09:04 AM 514 Views
Re: No I'm not. Ghavrel - 15/07/2017 05:07:42 AM 469 Views
Re: No I'm not. aerocontrols - 17/07/2017 02:55:54 PM 508 Views
Re: No I'm not. Ghavrel - 18/07/2017 01:27:06 AM 405 Views
Yes you are. Tom - 18/07/2017 06:40:45 AM 381 Views
You made the right choice, then. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/07/2017 03:37:40 PM 271 Views
It's really the only way I can get into cool threads aerocontrols - 18/07/2017 04:03:05 PM 387 Views
The Democrats definitely won in regards to changing the conversation. The Shrike - 14/07/2017 06:06:58 PM 516 Views
Pay no attention to that CIA agent behind the voting curtain (in X country) Tom - 18/07/2017 06:43:38 AM 476 Views
When the media is the cornerstone of your political base it is easy to control the tone random thoughts - 19/07/2017 01:22:51 PM 511 Views
The other amusing thing is the GOP voters' sudden love for Russia. Legolas - 14/07/2017 06:43:12 PM 535 Views
There was a great article in the NYT about that The Shrike - 14/07/2017 08:29:29 PM 584 Views
There's nothing "sudden" about it for me. *NM* Tom - 14/07/2017 08:49:38 PM 284 Views
I know. I was going to add a comment about how you must love that. Legolas - 14/07/2017 11:08:41 PM 1102 Views
I'm considering pitching to go on Fox or something. Tom - 18/07/2017 05:41:56 AM 447 Views
Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia aerocontrols - 18/07/2017 04:10:01 PM 605 Views
Good idea. Legolas - 23/07/2017 05:50:33 PM 494 Views
You are the fly in every republican cake Roland00 - 15/07/2017 01:56:24 AM 511 Views
I really don't understand 99% of your responses Tom - 18/07/2017 06:42:09 AM 539 Views
Yes Tom, Yes Exactly *NM* Roland00 - 18/07/2017 03:46:22 PM 252 Views
It was and still just the isolationist wing of the party that feels that way random thoughts - 19/07/2017 01:27:41 PM 470 Views
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