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Well, the Russian government did not swear oaths as members of the US military or public servants Cannoli Send a noteboard - 14/07/2017 04:58:18 AM

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I'm not sure the implication that actions are justified if they're in pursuit of spreading truth is necessarily quite as appealing as it sounds at first blush.

And regardless of the morality or legality of people stealing and/or disseminating the information, it does not change the right of people to make up their minds based on such information, nor invalidate such choices. "Fruit of the poisoned tree" applies only to the inside of courtroom, and is in itself a rather ridiculous concept that is only tolerated in order to strip the motivation for the government & law enforcement to violate the rights of citizens to privacy. It in no way means that in real life people have an obligation to pretend illicitly obtained and disseminated facts are not true or that they never heard them.

This was a ridiculous method of obfuscation was similarly attempted by, I believe, Barbara Boxer, concerning the release of e-mails revealing the duplicity of certain parties in the climate change debate.

Meanwhile, in typical Democrat hypocrisy, they have absolutely no qualms about having used similarly illicit information during the Nixon administration, and consider Daniel Ellsberg and Mark Felt heroes of a sort.

Cannoli
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