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I very well could be wrong, but I don't think that I am. Jeordam Send a noteboard - 17/07/2017 04:50:24 PM

You referenced the law that said it had to have monetary value. I'm awaiting that bit of intel. Where has the monetary value been set? I may have missed an article some place, but I don't see where the Russians set any type of figure or aspect of value in exchange for these emails. Did I miss that?

And then this is just a semantics argument. Did he seek them out, or did they seek him out? I would further argue that he didn't solicit help from a foreign body, but they came to him and he went to talk.

If he sought them out and prompted them to do something illegal (getting unauthorized access to their emails) in exchange for money or something of value, then I would agree that a law was broken.

This, on the other hand, doesn't seem to fit.
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The truly amusing thing about all this. LiterateDog - 13/07/2017 02:32:33 PM 1151 Views
that's the thing with muddying the waters damookster - 13/07/2017 03:20:24 PM 556 Views
The media lost the respect they commanded back then. Tom - 13/07/2017 10:42:27 PM 460 Views
The other thing I was thinking.... Jeordam - 13/07/2017 07:05:27 PM 634 Views
We know how they would react because it happened. Tom - 13/07/2017 10:37:43 PM 519 Views
So imprison Clinton and Trump both. Just put Kasich in. I don't mind. Ghavrel - 14/07/2017 03:40:02 AM 550 Views
No thanks. We don't need Mr. Magoo as President. Tom - 14/07/2017 08:46:14 PM 574 Views
And why would we imprison Trump, counselor? Tom - 14/07/2017 08:47:34 PM 523 Views
This is your defense? "Other people would do it too?" *NM* Ghavrel - 14/07/2017 03:36:26 AM 259 Views
To quoque or not to quoque, I think the essential defense is there is NO wrongdoing in such events Cannoli - 14/07/2017 04:45:41 AM 592 Views
That's at least more logically consistent. Ghavrel - 14/07/2017 10:42:08 AM 634 Views
I don't need a defense.... Jeordam - 14/07/2017 08:31:12 PM 472 Views
Actually it is illegal in several ways Roland00 - 15/07/2017 01:55:02 AM 610 Views
dirt on an opponent is equivilent to a monetary disbursment? *NM* damookster - 15/07/2017 03:43:28 AM 373 Views
I don't have an opinion on whether the law was broken here. Ghavrel - 15/07/2017 05:12:08 AM 647 Views
Yes Roland00 - 15/07/2017 02:34:53 PM 531 Views
Bah damookster - 15/07/2017 04:56:08 PM 490 Views
Question Mookie, when did you think this law was enacted and last revised? Roland00 - 16/07/2017 11:46:43 AM 539 Views
No clue. I could google, of course, but that would be cheating. *NM* damookster - 16/07/2017 03:29:52 PM 300 Views
The offered dirty was that the Clintons were taking campaign donations from a foreign national again random thoughts - 18/07/2017 08:08:23 PM 515 Views
I very well could be wrong, but I don't think that I am. Jeordam - 17/07/2017 04:50:24 PM 536 Views
Well yeah. That happened. But it's not the main point. It's a side-bonus. nossy - 13/07/2017 10:22:32 PM 449 Views
I'm waiting for Little Marco to send me a subpoena. Tom - 13/07/2017 10:40:25 PM 554 Views
That's a very good point that needs further exploration damookster - 13/07/2017 11:54:56 PM 548 Views
The New York Times still has a fold? Tom - 14/07/2017 02:28:48 PM 504 Views
I think I served you a subpoena once. . . It was a small subpoena. *NM* Roland00 - 14/07/2017 09:02:48 AM 320 Views
What are your opinions on Manning and Snowden? I honestly don't remember. Ghavrel - 14/07/2017 03:42:09 AM 504 Views
Well, the Russian government did not swear oaths as members of the US military or public servants Cannoli - 14/07/2017 04:58:18 AM 595 Views
Extend the query to Wikileaks publishing the documents, then. Ghavrel - 14/07/2017 10:34:53 AM 576 Views
Are you sure? aerocontrols - 14/07/2017 02:29:51 PM 430 Views
That only works if you can claim with a straight face the GOP wouldn't care Ghavrel - 14/07/2017 03:32:43 PM 580 Views
You've misunderstood me aerocontrols - 14/07/2017 06:22:21 PM 574 Views
I don't think I have. Ghavrel - 15/07/2017 02:34:27 AM 517 Views
No I'm not. aerocontrols - 15/07/2017 03:09:04 AM 595 Views
Re: No I'm not. Ghavrel - 15/07/2017 05:07:42 AM 532 Views
Re: No I'm not. aerocontrols - 17/07/2017 02:55:54 PM 599 Views
Re: No I'm not. Ghavrel - 18/07/2017 01:27:06 AM 488 Views
Yes you are. Tom - 18/07/2017 06:40:45 AM 464 Views
You made the right choice, then. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/07/2017 03:37:40 PM 303 Views
It's really the only way I can get into cool threads aerocontrols - 18/07/2017 04:03:05 PM 460 Views
The Democrats definitely won in regards to changing the conversation. The Shrike - 14/07/2017 06:06:58 PM 585 Views
Pay no attention to that CIA agent behind the voting curtain (in X country) Tom - 18/07/2017 06:43:38 AM 572 Views
When the media is the cornerstone of your political base it is easy to control the tone random thoughts - 19/07/2017 01:22:51 PM 581 Views
The other amusing thing is the GOP voters' sudden love for Russia. Legolas - 14/07/2017 06:43:12 PM 601 Views
There was a great article in the NYT about that The Shrike - 14/07/2017 08:29:29 PM 667 Views
There's nothing "sudden" about it for me. *NM* Tom - 14/07/2017 08:49:38 PM 324 Views
I know. I was going to add a comment about how you must love that. Legolas - 14/07/2017 11:08:41 PM 1172 Views
I'm considering pitching to go on Fox or something. Tom - 18/07/2017 05:41:56 AM 513 Views
Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia aerocontrols - 18/07/2017 04:10:01 PM 713 Views
Good idea. Legolas - 23/07/2017 05:50:33 PM 560 Views
You are the fly in every republican cake Roland00 - 15/07/2017 01:56:24 AM 580 Views
I really don't understand 99% of your responses Tom - 18/07/2017 06:42:09 AM 599 Views
Yes Tom, Yes Exactly *NM* Roland00 - 18/07/2017 03:46:22 PM 294 Views
It was and still just the isolationist wing of the party that feels that way random thoughts - 19/07/2017 01:27:41 PM 534 Views
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