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You do realize the whistle blower had no direct information in the complaint, right? Tom Send a noteboard - 27/09/2019 07:51:19 PM

He was in the CIA and upset that "several people were disturbed" by the call, and that it was placed in a secret database. However, apparently that is something that the Trump Administration has been doing due to leaks (like the whistle blower's leak). The transcript was composed by people actually in the room when the call was made, unlike the whistle blower's unsubstantiated complaint.

In a trial the whistle blower's entire complaint would be considered inadmissible hearsay. The only reason to file it is to attempt to then find substantiation elsewhere. There is an expression for legal actions such as this: fishing expedition.

Treating it with any more seriousness than that is just absurd.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

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Really? Nothing on the current Ukraine-Trump thing? Color me shocked. *NM* TyrReborn - 26/09/2019 07:32:13 PM 558 Views
My thoughts in a short video clip form. Roland00 - 26/09/2019 08:09:32 PM 397 Views
I would have put up something if I expected a different result from before fionwe1987 - 26/09/2019 09:32:56 PM 371 Views
This. *NM* Legolas - 26/09/2019 09:56:29 PM 183 Views
So every conversation you have in life.... Jeordam - 26/09/2019 10:50:09 PM 403 Views
Not with people like you. Not anymore fionwe1987 - 26/09/2019 11:47:04 PM 386 Views
That's the actual debate, isn't it? Jeordam - 26/09/2019 10:48:12 PM 406 Views
Yes, you're missing things. fionwe1987 - 26/09/2019 11:51:34 PM 399 Views
Of course you are but you already knew that random thoughts - 27/09/2019 02:00:22 PM 400 Views
Hmmm... Jeordam - 27/09/2019 04:20:05 PM 365 Views
What is different than before is two things Roland00 - 26/09/2019 11:59:33 PM 398 Views
We're talking about different differences... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 08:10:47 PM 351 Views
many Republicans I know feel exactly the same *NM* damookster - 27/09/2019 08:57:57 PM 189 Views
But few will say it out straight fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 09:21:28 PM 349 Views
I don't know this answer and any one who says they know this answer is lying to you even if their Roland00 - 28/09/2019 12:29:39 AM 342 Views
A complete tempest in a teacup. Tom - 26/09/2019 10:01:09 PM 396 Views
The Trump apologist are circling the wagons random thoughts - 27/09/2019 01:49:20 PM 423 Views
This is where I disagree. Jeordam - 27/09/2019 04:35:43 PM 388 Views
You do realize that we're now going by the White House's own summary? Legolas - 27/09/2019 07:30:59 PM 358 Views
Yes, I do realize that. Jeordam - 27/09/2019 07:46:10 PM 355 Views
What would you do when everything you say will always be taken in the worst light?- private email? fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 07:58:19 PM 358 Views
Simmer down Jeordam - 27/09/2019 08:33:14 PM 356 Views
ROFL. You truly are hopeless. Enjoy smoking whatever you're smoking. Thankfully, its not my country fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 09:09:43 PM 394 Views
I don't smoke. But you are correct....it is not your country. *NM* Jeordam - 27/09/2019 09:57:27 PM 186 Views
You truly are hopeless. Roland00 - 28/09/2019 01:12:52 AM 423 Views
Your spidey-senses were accurate. I was indeed thinking of doing so. damookster - 28/09/2019 02:36:01 PM 349 Views
You do realize the whistle blower had no direct information in the complaint, right? Tom - 27/09/2019 07:51:19 PM 383 Views
And? Legolas - 27/09/2019 09:34:31 PM 379 Views
"I have no idea what 'fishing' has to do with anything." You wouldn't. Tom - 27/09/2019 10:11:54 PM 375 Views
So you're saying any whistleblower complaint based on second hand information... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 11:44:57 PM 365 Views
It doesn't matter Roland00 - 28/09/2019 06:02:07 AM 357 Views
Also just as a reminder we have precedent here with the impeachment of Federal Judge Walter Nixon. Roland00 - 28/09/2019 07:38:19 PM 362 Views
A secret database, you mean a secret server? A server full of e-mails? *NM* Roland00 - 28/09/2019 05:55:21 AM 178 Views
Truth! Great Post - *NM* Anonymous2000 - 01/10/2019 02:12:50 AM 200 Views
The biggest conundrum for Republicans... damookster - 27/09/2019 04:10:16 PM 428 Views
Likewise.... Jeordam - 27/09/2019 04:24:03 PM 346 Views
You're drastically overstating how much impact Trump, or any president, has on the economy. Legolas - 27/09/2019 07:11:54 PM 407 Views
Long term verses short term damookster - 27/09/2019 07:33:01 PM 395 Views
And I'm not willing to gamble on that rebound. Jeordam - 27/09/2019 07:55:19 PM 377 Views
You know they're going to have to hit the middle class with massive taxes for this Tom - 27/09/2019 08:31:09 PM 342 Views
Bernie clearly stated on Colbert the other night that his health care taxes would start... damookster - 28/09/2019 03:16:43 PM 354 Views
Hun you have the senate to be the shock absorber on the rebound. Roland00 - 28/09/2019 02:15:20 AM 359 Views
If all of that actually happened like that, okay. Legolas - 27/09/2019 10:01:26 PM 375 Views
"the worst, most corrupt and most offensive president in American history" - Harding is back? Tom - 27/09/2019 07:54:13 PM 388 Views
What makes Trump the most corrupt in you opinion ? AgentApple - 29/09/2019 02:35:25 PM 461 Views
Trump won't be removed from office absent real evidence of high crimes Tom - 27/09/2019 07:52:56 PM 385 Views
That isn't the standard for "real evidence" fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 08:06:48 PM 354 Views
That may be but he has a point. damookster - 27/09/2019 09:09:02 PM 368 Views
That's what I said... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 09:14:14 PM 350 Views
On a less depressing subject damookster - 27/09/2019 09:35:26 PM 362 Views
Amrut is awesome fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 09:54:20 PM 331 Views
Yes, that was on the label. damookster - 27/09/2019 10:10:00 PM 354 Views
Well, at least you're honest. fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 08:00:39 PM 334 Views
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