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I am skipping most of what you wrote Roland00 Send a noteboard - 02/05/2022 07:02:56 PM

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Nazi? white supremecist? anti-vaxxer? conspiracy theorist? TERF? Yt boi? Mayomonkey? Incel?
...and specifically target a LGBT suicide hotline and saying said hotline are groomers? For they are a support organisation for teenagers and thus minors?

(Chris Rufo is the one who pioneered the groomers language.)

Some of the above terms I listed have been used to justify the deplatforming of the likes of Dr Robert Malone, because of his anti-establishment perspective on Covid origins and criticisms of the novel vaccine

Some of the above terms I listed have been associated with Andy Ngo, a journalist who focuses on covering Antifa activity. Antifa members have continually targeted Andy with threats of violence (on Twitter) and he was injured at least once in a major way (brain injury) on one altercation.

To your point, much of the hoopla surrounding the term "groomer" is related to the intent of schools indoctrinating, pushing, promoting, offering sex ed to grade-school children. This prompted the infamous bill in Florida restricting sex ed to children until they are older. This has been lambasted as the "Don't Say Gay" bill.

This is likely due to the interpretation that restricting sex ed also restricts LGBTQ education. It is also likely that this has become an issue in the first place because the implementation has been shown to overemphasize LGBTQ issues, giving a warped view of how the world is actually structured to many children who do not have a solid grasp on that structure.

Regardless of the intent/interpretation, it is still false to call it "Don't Say Gay," since it is specifically about sex ed. Should that term be restricted on Twitter?

Twitter was not neutral when it blocked ISIS / ISIL propaganda and recruiting videos, those were not bots Mookie.

We are living in different worlds, just because you do not see shit does not mean it has not been foreclosed on. The same power that gives Twitter to ban ISIS / ISIL is what gives Twitter the power to ban hateful stuff and also just stuff which is “spam”

False equivalency, but... should they have been blocked?

I may come back to it later, but on the Don't Say Gay Bill, we know that it was patterned after Orban's Hungary behavior.

Now you may question this and just say Dreher and the Florida Press Secretary did not literally mean that. We are never able to see what is in other people's minds after all, we can only record each other speach and check for internal logics, psychodynamics, and so on. Then it relies on trust, faith, belief, paranoia, etc for we can't see what is in other people's minds.

So yeah I do not agree with what you said earlier about Don't Say Gay in Florida. Likewise I can point to the US history of the 1960s to 1990s, and the 2000s. And to other places like the UK's section 28, and so on.

I am skeptical of the advocates of those Don't Say Gay Laws and what they are calling for much like Ronald Reagan said no I am not going to go there with the 1978 California State Ballot Initiative (when Reagan would gain more support for he was going to run for President) and also similar acts in 1967 (when Reagan was in his first year of Governor and some people wanted to create a moral panic there with homosexuality and the teachers.)

Moral Panics are not new, witch hunts are not new. You are susceptible to propaganda and while I am for freedom of speech from the government, private businesses have the right and the duty to intervene for Pogroms, Lynchings, Mass Shootings, have happened in every culture (including the US with all our exceptionalism) and every hundred years when you allow the "othering" of another to reach such a passionate pitch. People feel justified for it becomes a holy war to preserve society.

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