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No one said that, and you know it... entyti Send a noteboard - 07/05/2022 05:56:04 AM

No, of course it doesn't. But it's hardly something you can make a decision about and impose on the whole country. If you believe life begins at meiotic cell division, go for it, preserve every sperm cell. But why am I obliged to follow this?

Science certainly doesn't support any such notion, so given the absence of anything approaching secular agreement on when life begins, why should the entire country follow the beliefs of one religious group?


If you can't be intellectually honest about your opposing arguments, it's difficult to trust your position.

Your response here weakens your argument. It is certainly not the gotcha you believe it to be.

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Abortion in the South, and soon, probably all over the country fionwe1987 - 25/04/2022 01:26:45 AM 1006 Views
that is the trouble here Roland00 - 25/04/2022 05:02:46 PM 227 Views
Your utter lack of comprehension means you will never evoke any sympathy from me on this Cannoli - 26/04/2022 12:42:54 PM 267 Views
"The party of "bodily autonomy"" Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 04:51:05 PM 192 Views
That is a perverts motte and bailey argument Roland00 - 26/04/2022 06:27:51 PM 194 Views
The issue is abortion. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 07:39:00 PM 174 Views
Tell me your feelings about Lochner Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:53:00 PM 179 Views
Simple, it was wrongly decided. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 09:51:27 PM 171 Views
I think that is enough for the day Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:07:42 PM 171 Views
I honestly don't give a fig about the constitution here... fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:00:57 PM 206 Views
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 07:42:51 PM 194 Views
Uhhh fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:54:13 PM 178 Views
I mean, yeah. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 09:58:19 PM 161 Views
You seem to be arguing with an alternate version of me... fionwe1987 - 27/04/2022 04:46:46 AM 197 Views
Broad popular support? Dragonsoul - 27/04/2022 04:54:49 PM 181 Views
Cannoli is not wrong. damookster - 26/04/2022 05:09:49 PM 204 Views
Cannoli is a contemptuous moron fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 06:56:33 PM 184 Views
I am contemptuous of you (and I suspect your vocabulary skills) Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:30:55 PM 194 Views
Was the Catholic Church EVIL . Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:01:50 PM 199 Views
As a general rule... fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:06:24 PM 173 Views
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:32:33 PM 422 Views
The people who feel righteousness and can not acknowledge ambiguity well this kingdom will be theres Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:34:10 PM 166 Views
Roland, I am neither supporting nor denying any specific theology in my original comment. damookster - 26/04/2022 08:28:31 PM 167 Views
And I am problematizing your claim Roland00 - 26/04/2022 08:34:17 PM 165 Views
hence, I introduced the problematic existence of exceptions to the law. *NM* damookster - 26/04/2022 08:54:02 PM 116 Views
Theodicy Roland00 - 26/04/2022 08:55:50 PM 201 Views
Re: Theodicy Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:45:35 PM 180 Views
and yet... damookster - 26/04/2022 10:35:58 PM 192 Views
What is the Andrea Dworkin line again? Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:06:30 PM 183 Views
You're correct about that. We are most assuredly talking past one another. damookster - 26/04/2022 11:39:01 PM 160 Views
Have not had a drink yet. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:46:59 PM 162 Views
I'd say about the same as covering up the child abuse issues. Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:41:21 PM 210 Views
Pope Sixtus V In the 1580s is when abortion became a top down / pope and council issue. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 10:56:23 PM 222 Views
Leaked draft opinion Jeordam - 03/05/2022 06:42:20 PM 205 Views
John Roberts confirms it is real Roland00 - 03/05/2022 07:37:26 PM 186 Views
Results were leaked, not opinions. Dragonsoul - 03/05/2022 08:02:10 PM 167 Views
If you want to parse the history you are welcome to do so. Roland00 - 03/05/2022 08:32:06 PM 179 Views
You're either being willfully ignorant or disingenuous Dragonsoul - 03/05/2022 09:26:49 PM 183 Views
There's a very simple alternate reason fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:36:26 AM 173 Views
“Wants to get the word out there ASAP” Dragonsoul - 05/05/2022 02:02:00 PM 161 Views
Re: “Wants to get the word out there ASAP” fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:18:24 PM 175 Views
He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:04:07 PM 159 Views
Re: He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:01:43 PM 143 Views
Don't blame me for your failures. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:21:48 PM 141 Views
Leaking also kind of locks in the 5 justices into a more radical decision Roland00 - 05/05/2022 04:08:58 PM 167 Views
Precisely. fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:22:16 PM 136 Views
Obvious intent my ass fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:32:10 AM 163 Views
Treasonous Pieces of Junk Dragonsoul - 05/05/2022 01:58:23 PM 177 Views
I cannot commit treason fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:20:20 PM 167 Views
Neither am I. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:02:54 PM 159 Views
Projecting what? fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:02:59 PM 154 Views
Is this a parody account? Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:25:39 PM 166 Views
Nope. TyrReborn - 12/05/2022 10:23:24 PM 159 Views
Well, if it's not a parody... Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:46:45 PM 147 Views
Go look up what it means to “project” fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:04:19 PM 172 Views
Stop shifting the goalposts Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:45:21 PM 155 Views
There is no goalpost shifting fionwe1987 - 17/05/2022 12:48:18 PM 163 Views
Parody Account: Hypocrite, or Just Stupid? Dragonsoul - 17/05/2022 07:26:49 PM 150 Views
actually, Trump was impeached damookster - 05/05/2022 02:05:16 PM 162 Views
By Democrats and a few Republicans fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:21:38 PM 152 Views
you wrote: damookster - 06/05/2022 09:34:09 PM 144 Views
Ummm fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:42:57 PM 151 Views
Interesting is one word for it... fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:38:23 AM 154 Views
That's your thought.... Jeordam - 06/05/2022 05:34:21 PM 191 Views
Hardly just mine fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:23:32 PM 151 Views
Interesting... Jeordam - 06/05/2022 10:33:56 PM 183 Views
Roe has restrictions fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 03:16:32 AM 151 Views
So popular opinion is what decides recognition of life... entyti - 06/05/2022 10:44:08 PM 161 Views
Nice try fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 03:19:35 AM 141 Views
No one said that, and you know it... entyti - 07/05/2022 05:56:04 AM 148 Views
Well that's a lot of empty noise fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 02:46:48 PM 155 Views
Then stop listening to yourself… entyti - 07/05/2022 06:56:45 PM 199 Views
Serious reading comprehension fail here... fionwe1987 - 08/05/2022 05:01:28 PM 158 Views
Not reading comprehension. Thinking comprehension... and it's not on my account entyti - 09/05/2022 11:04:57 PM 154 Views
That is the Catholic Church's position after 1869, but lets do Idaho and LA Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:08:39 PM 162 Views
And the Minoans practiced child sacrifice... entyti - 09/05/2022 11:51:44 PM 145 Views
So we are in agreement if we circle around Roland00 - 10/05/2022 02:34:19 AM 150 Views
Well, we agree it will get worse entyti - 10/05/2022 04:05:33 PM 149 Views
Thanks for explaining why Roe was egregiously wrong. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:56:52 PM 149 Views
Roe imposed nothing fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:05:36 PM 153 Views
Actually, it does impose Jeordam - 09/05/2022 05:19:38 PM 220 Views
Re: Actually, it does impose fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:09:04 PM 156 Views
Roe imposed abortion on states that banned it. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:26:56 PM 167 Views
States rights do not trump individual rights fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:12:13 PM 145 Views
States rights regulate individual rights Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:42:52 PM 177 Views
I am not allowed to get divorced in my state of Texas if my spouse is pregnant. Roland00 - 15/05/2022 07:59:19 PM 164 Views
Cool Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 12:10:57 AM 165 Views
So our state energy grid Roland00 - 16/05/2022 01:41:50 AM 159 Views
Wow, not sure I've seen you so angry before gban007 - 16/05/2022 08:12:58 AM 171 Views
Sadomasochism, aka cruelty has been the norm of Texas for a long time. Roland00 - 16/05/2022 05:56:26 PM 127 Views
Are you off your meds? Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 12:35:18 PM 154 Views
I live in the world the US set up Internment Camps in living memory, I known survivors. Roland00 - 16/05/2022 06:00:07 PM 141 Views
You're literally arguing with yourself. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:00:37 PM 137 Views
That is precisely what I am afraid of Roland00 - 16/05/2022 08:07:41 PM 131 Views
That can literally be flipped right on to the other side. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:19:02 PM 151 Views
Just a reminder freedom of movement is not in the US Constitution Roland00 - 16/05/2022 08:25:42 PM 153 Views
Again, you put words into my mouth that I've never said. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:32:38 PM 145 Views
Who the fuck cares? fionwe1987 - 17/05/2022 12:54:48 PM 172 Views
Parody account strikes back! Dragonsoul - 17/05/2022 07:14:24 PM 142 Views
a few final thoughts damookster - 07/05/2022 07:18:38 PM 236 Views
In some ways, it probably would've been better if Roe v Wade had never happened. Legolas - 07/05/2022 08:20:17 PM 182 Views
I can always count on you for rational discussion. *NM* damookster - 07/05/2022 09:19:57 PM 146 Views
He really is wonderful. The Shrike - 09/05/2022 04:29:00 PM 168 Views
Let me join in. Yes. Legolas is good people. *NM* aerocontrols - 10/05/2022 02:52:37 PM 92 Views
It did happen though, sorry if I problematize your fantasy you are transversing Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:35:12 PM 149 Views
Uh, it wasn't a fantasy... and you didn't problematize it so much as made some vague reflections? *NM* Legolas - 08/05/2022 12:37:23 AM 100 Views
Alternate histories are always fantasies *NM* Roland00 - 08/05/2022 01:03:48 AM 93 Views
History and Histrionic or perhaps Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:25:23 PM 147 Views
The denominational distinctions within Christiandom aren't of concern to me... fionwe1987 - 08/05/2022 05:09:12 PM 267 Views
There is an easy answer for you. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:53:42 PM 158 Views
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