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No one said that, and you know it... entyti Send a noteboard - 07/05/2022 05:56:04 AM

No, of course it doesn't. But it's hardly something you can make a decision about and impose on the whole country. If you believe life begins at meiotic cell division, go for it, preserve every sperm cell. But why am I obliged to follow this?

Science certainly doesn't support any such notion, so given the absence of anything approaching secular agreement on when life begins, why should the entire country follow the beliefs of one religious group?


If you can't be intellectually honest about your opposing arguments, it's difficult to trust your position.

Your response here weakens your argument. It is certainly not the gotcha you believe it to be.

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Abortion in the South, and soon, probably all over the country fionwe1987 - 25/04/2022 01:26:45 AM 1449 Views
that is the trouble here Roland00 - 25/04/2022 05:02:46 PM 743 Views
Your utter lack of comprehension means you will never evoke any sympathy from me on this Cannoli - 26/04/2022 12:42:54 PM 748 Views
"The party of "bodily autonomy"" Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 04:51:05 PM 611 Views
That is a perverts motte and bailey argument Roland00 - 26/04/2022 06:27:51 PM 684 Views
The issue is abortion. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 07:39:00 PM 582 Views
Tell me your feelings about Lochner Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:53:00 PM 591 Views
Simple, it was wrongly decided. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 09:51:27 PM 562 Views
I think that is enough for the day Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:07:42 PM 611 Views
I honestly don't give a fig about the constitution here... fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:00:57 PM 635 Views
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 07:42:51 PM 623 Views
Uhhh fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:54:13 PM 598 Views
I mean, yeah. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 09:58:19 PM 596 Views
You seem to be arguing with an alternate version of me... fionwe1987 - 27/04/2022 04:46:46 AM 703 Views
Broad popular support? Dragonsoul - 27/04/2022 04:54:49 PM 593 Views
Cannoli is not wrong. damookster - 26/04/2022 05:09:49 PM 648 Views
Cannoli is a contemptuous moron fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 06:56:33 PM 671 Views
I am contemptuous of you (and I suspect your vocabulary skills) Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:30:55 PM 644 Views
Was the Catholic Church EVIL . Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:01:50 PM 628 Views
As a general rule... fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:06:24 PM 594 Views
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:32:33 PM 856 Views
The people who feel righteousness and can not acknowledge ambiguity well this kingdom will be theres Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:34:10 PM 677 Views
Roland, I am neither supporting nor denying any specific theology in my original comment. damookster - 26/04/2022 08:28:31 PM 595 Views
And I am problematizing your claim Roland00 - 26/04/2022 08:34:17 PM 652 Views
hence, I introduced the problematic existence of exceptions to the law. *NM* damookster - 26/04/2022 08:54:02 PM 378 Views
Theodicy Roland00 - 26/04/2022 08:55:50 PM 648 Views
Re: Theodicy Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:45:35 PM 656 Views
and yet... damookster - 26/04/2022 10:35:58 PM 626 Views
What is the Andrea Dworkin line again? Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:06:30 PM 594 Views
You're correct about that. We are most assuredly talking past one another. damookster - 26/04/2022 11:39:01 PM 584 Views
Have not had a drink yet. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:46:59 PM 600 Views
I'd say about the same as covering up the child abuse issues. Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:41:21 PM 633 Views
Pope Sixtus V In the 1580s is when abortion became a top down / pope and council issue. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 10:56:23 PM 710 Views
Leaked draft opinion Jeordam - 03/05/2022 06:42:20 PM 651 Views
John Roberts confirms it is real Roland00 - 03/05/2022 07:37:26 PM 613 Views
Results were leaked, not opinions. Dragonsoul - 03/05/2022 08:02:10 PM 554 Views
If you want to parse the history you are welcome to do so. Roland00 - 03/05/2022 08:32:06 PM 624 Views
You're either being willfully ignorant or disingenuous Dragonsoul - 03/05/2022 09:26:49 PM 629 Views
There's a very simple alternate reason fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:36:26 AM 629 Views
“Wants to get the word out there ASAP” Dragonsoul - 05/05/2022 02:02:00 PM 566 Views
Re: “Wants to get the word out there ASAP” fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:18:24 PM 666 Views
He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:04:07 PM 564 Views
Re: He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:01:43 PM 555 Views
Don't blame me for your failures. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:21:48 PM 584 Views
Leaking also kind of locks in the 5 justices into a more radical decision Roland00 - 05/05/2022 04:08:58 PM 602 Views
Precisely. fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:22:16 PM 552 Views
Obvious intent my ass fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:32:10 AM 605 Views
Treasonous Pieces of Junk Dragonsoul - 05/05/2022 01:58:23 PM 562 Views
I cannot commit treason fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:20:20 PM 581 Views
Neither am I. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:02:54 PM 579 Views
Projecting what? fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:02:59 PM 582 Views
Is this a parody account? Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:25:39 PM 558 Views
Nope. TyrReborn - 12/05/2022 10:23:24 PM 577 Views
Well, if it's not a parody... Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:46:45 PM 576 Views
Go look up what it means to “project” fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:04:19 PM 579 Views
Stop shifting the goalposts Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:45:21 PM 562 Views
There is no goalpost shifting fionwe1987 - 17/05/2022 12:48:18 PM 648 Views
Parody Account: Hypocrite, or Just Stupid? Dragonsoul - 17/05/2022 07:26:49 PM 591 Views
actually, Trump was impeached damookster - 05/05/2022 02:05:16 PM 580 Views
By Democrats and a few Republicans fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:21:38 PM 611 Views
you wrote: damookster - 06/05/2022 09:34:09 PM 552 Views
Ummm fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:42:57 PM 551 Views
Interesting is one word for it... fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:38:23 AM 555 Views
That's your thought.... Jeordam - 06/05/2022 05:34:21 PM 618 Views
Hardly just mine fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:23:32 PM 554 Views
Interesting... Jeordam - 06/05/2022 10:33:56 PM 600 Views
Roe has restrictions fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 03:16:32 AM 579 Views
So popular opinion is what decides recognition of life... entyti - 06/05/2022 10:44:08 PM 586 Views
Nice try fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 03:19:35 AM 556 Views
No one said that, and you know it... entyti - 07/05/2022 05:56:04 AM 571 Views
Well that's a lot of empty noise fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 02:46:48 PM 550 Views
Then stop listening to yourself… entyti - 07/05/2022 06:56:45 PM 660 Views
Serious reading comprehension fail here... fionwe1987 - 08/05/2022 05:01:28 PM 602 Views
Not reading comprehension. Thinking comprehension... and it's not on my account entyti - 09/05/2022 11:04:57 PM 594 Views
That is the Catholic Church's position after 1869, but lets do Idaho and LA Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:08:39 PM 602 Views
And the Minoans practiced child sacrifice... entyti - 09/05/2022 11:51:44 PM 577 Views
So we are in agreement if we circle around Roland00 - 10/05/2022 02:34:19 AM 547 Views
Well, we agree it will get worse entyti - 10/05/2022 04:05:33 PM 586 Views
Thanks for explaining why Roe was egregiously wrong. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:56:52 PM 545 Views
Roe imposed nothing fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:05:36 PM 596 Views
Actually, it does impose Jeordam - 09/05/2022 05:19:38 PM 807 Views
Re: Actually, it does impose fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:09:04 PM 555 Views
Roe imposed abortion on states that banned it. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:26:56 PM 612 Views
States rights do not trump individual rights fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:12:13 PM 583 Views
States rights regulate individual rights Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:42:52 PM 613 Views
I am not allowed to get divorced in my state of Texas if my spouse is pregnant. Roland00 - 15/05/2022 07:59:19 PM 588 Views
Cool Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 12:10:57 AM 622 Views
So our state energy grid Roland00 - 16/05/2022 01:41:50 AM 595 Views
Wow, not sure I've seen you so angry before gban007 - 16/05/2022 08:12:58 AM 624 Views
Sadomasochism, aka cruelty has been the norm of Texas for a long time. Roland00 - 16/05/2022 05:56:26 PM 585 Views
Are you off your meds? Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 12:35:18 PM 515 Views
I live in the world the US set up Internment Camps in living memory, I known survivors. Roland00 - 16/05/2022 06:00:07 PM 567 Views
You're literally arguing with yourself. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:00:37 PM 568 Views
That is precisely what I am afraid of Roland00 - 16/05/2022 08:07:41 PM 524 Views
That can literally be flipped right on to the other side. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:19:02 PM 543 Views
Just a reminder freedom of movement is not in the US Constitution Roland00 - 16/05/2022 08:25:42 PM 567 Views
Again, you put words into my mouth that I've never said. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:32:38 PM 547 Views
Who the fuck cares? fionwe1987 - 17/05/2022 12:54:48 PM 638 Views
Parody account strikes back! Dragonsoul - 17/05/2022 07:14:24 PM 561 Views
a few final thoughts damookster - 07/05/2022 07:18:38 PM 649 Views
In some ways, it probably would've been better if Roe v Wade had never happened. Legolas - 07/05/2022 08:20:17 PM 662 Views
I can always count on you for rational discussion. *NM* damookster - 07/05/2022 09:19:57 PM 371 Views
He really is wonderful. The Shrike - 09/05/2022 04:29:00 PM 606 Views
Let me join in. Yes. Legolas is good people. *NM* aerocontrols - 10/05/2022 02:52:37 PM 313 Views
It did happen though, sorry if I problematize your fantasy you are transversing Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:35:12 PM 579 Views
Uh, it wasn't a fantasy... and you didn't problematize it so much as made some vague reflections? *NM* Legolas - 08/05/2022 12:37:23 AM 329 Views
Alternate histories are always fantasies *NM* Roland00 - 08/05/2022 01:03:48 AM 327 Views
History and Histrionic or perhaps Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:25:23 PM 612 Views
The denominational distinctions within Christiandom aren't of concern to me... fionwe1987 - 08/05/2022 05:09:12 PM 698 Views
There is an easy answer for you. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:53:42 PM 578 Views
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