I think Siuan is a lesser woman. Even in NS she was better than she is now. She may be a good advisor with a sharp mind, but she's still a shadow of what she was.
If anything, Siuan's own thoughts in tGS should show that she is now a stronger and subtler woman.
As she realizes, she relied too much on her great strength in the Power before. She was manipulative, devious but not very subtle. She could, and did, run roughshod over any opposition.
Weakened, she has been forced to use her mind to its fullest potential. And in the process has realized that power blinds you to those you think are weaker, and allows them to manipulate you.
Even if she does regain her full strength, she's never going to go back to her old ways. With or without that strength, she is now a far more dangerous person, and her experience as a weak nobody has also strengthened her resolve and made her a tough person. I'd actually like to see her meet Cadsuane more than anyone else. Caddy will see right away that here's someone who's almost a match.
Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif
- 09/05/2010 06:01:33 PM
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The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
- 09/05/2010 07:07:09 PM
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That's total nonsense...
- 10/05/2010 08:34:08 AM
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No, THAT's total nonsense...
- 10/05/2010 09:27:41 AM
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You seem to deal in bad analogies...
- 10/05/2010 05:14:47 PM
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You've got an irritating manner about you. No wonder you find Aes Sedai so believable.
- 10/05/2010 05:53:00 PM
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Hello Pot. I'm Kettle.
- 10/05/2010 06:41:58 PM
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Hello Kettle. I'm Frying pan 
*NM*
- 11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM
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*NM*
- 11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM
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Hello Frying pan. I'm Skillet. *NM*
- 12/05/2010 11:50:33 PM
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Re: Hello Skillet, I'm a baking sheet can't we all have some cookies and get along? *NM*
- 17/05/2010 05:17:24 PM
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All of those people EARNED their positions by being the best, not a compromise candidate for office!
- 12/05/2010 04:36:36 AM
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Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
- 12/05/2010 04:23:07 AM
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Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
- 12/05/2010 06:33:37 AM
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They deserved to be deposed and stilled, I think ...
- 10/05/2010 02:47:35 PM
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"They"?
- 10/05/2010 05:16:54 PM
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Good point ...
- 10/05/2010 06:45:52 PM
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I don't know if I agree with this
- 11/05/2010 03:19:20 PM
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I like Leane, and respected Siuan until RJ mauled her character
- 10/05/2010 05:55:08 PM
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She was probably the sacrificial lamb in place of Moiraine
- 10/05/2010 06:25:39 PM
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The deck was certainly stacked against Siuan from the very beginning
- 11/05/2010 02:44:05 PM
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This is a main reason I hope Siuan and Leanne get their full strength restored
- 11/05/2010 02:25:31 PM
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I don't really agree
- 11/05/2010 05:35:44 PM
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I see your point and like I said, I think there are certainly other resolutions to the story line
- 11/05/2010 06:22:44 PM
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I'm still annoyed that Siuan is not going to face the consequences of lying about the Reds.
- 12/05/2010 05:18:47 AM
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In Egwene's defense, it would be hypocritical of her to bring that up after profiting from it
- 12/05/2010 05:59:57 AM
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Oh, I never expected Egwene to do something about this.
- 12/05/2010 06:12:35 AM
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Well she's off forging a relationship with the Asha'man - you know, useful stuff? *NM*
- 12/05/2010 06:39:04 AM
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Are you claiming that Pevara was the only woman in the entire Red Ajah to be offended by that lie? *NM*
- 12/05/2010 07:15:40 AM
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The Reds aren't petty
- 12/05/2010 04:52:50 PM
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Are you kidding?
- 12/05/2010 06:14:46 PM
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Unless of course there is truth to it
- 17/05/2010 01:50:27 PM
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There is none.
- 17/05/2010 07:09:59 PM
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Uhhh?
- 17/05/2010 08:45:15 PM
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...
- 17/05/2010 11:08:05 PM
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Re: ...
- 18/05/2010 05:25:33 AM
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Seriously, are you kidding? [EDIT]
- 18/05/2010 06:06:01 AM
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*sigh*
- 18/05/2010 12:30:43 PM
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So, you're not kidding.
- 18/05/2010 09:12:27 PM
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Re: So, you're not kidding.
- 18/05/2010 10:25:19 PM
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Re: So, you're not kidding.
- 19/05/2010 12:41:09 AM
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On the minority thing...
- 18/05/2010 04:26:15 PM
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That's exactly the problem.
- 18/05/2010 08:51:45 PM
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Really do you have a quote supporting the fact that there has never been a FD supported by a Red?
- 18/05/2010 09:39:31 PM
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Of course..., I'll provide it as soon as you prove you're not a Nazi serial child rapist.
- 18/05/2010 10:06:23 PM
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why so pissy?
- 19/05/2010 03:34:22 PM
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Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 04:16:43 AM
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Re: Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 08:19:13 AM
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Re: Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 08:33:54 AM
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Re: Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 01:26:47 PM
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Interesting.
- 20/05/2010 07:34:45 PM
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Re: Interesting.
- 21/05/2010 05:07:07 AM
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No worries! I was just caught off guard by your response... sorry for your stress! *NM*
- 20/05/2010 10:04:35 PM
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There may be one explanation...
- 13/05/2010 10:04:46 PM
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That doesn't make sense.
- 13/05/2010 10:54:53 PM
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it was about more than just male channelers
- 18/05/2010 09:50:14 PM
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Yes, that's true.
- 18/05/2010 10:07:22 PM
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I'm also certain the majority of the Red had no clue/involvement
- 20/05/2010 10:24:54 PM
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That's also true.
- 20/05/2010 10:29:11 PM
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Okay I'm leaving you alone ... you clearly don't want to continue 
- 20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM
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- 20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM
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AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge.
- 12/05/2010 10:50:50 PM
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No, I don't think so
- 13/05/2010 05:10:03 AM
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